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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:16:43 GMT -5
copp been crazy busy over here..i'll get seeds and a few surprises out in the next 7 days.smiles Don't rush too fast. It'll take Chuck Heston to part the weather first. Its colder'n a well diggers asterisk. But yes when things calm a bit. I PMed my the house addy... * Significant thread veer* I been scrounging, and this is one I let go napping for a longish time, so's its not going to conclude fast. Meaning, meaning Tom's going to outgass about this for a while. Anywho I started again hustling for some giant nut examples. Where the ideal place is to grow these is going to be equally speculative. But I think in one of our collective zones will be on target. Uber-large Persian (carpathian) walnut. And I mean uber, as in really big. My fingers is crossed that I didn't goof off on this one too long. I stumbled onto these before I had permission to do grow-outs here, and had no place to plant them out either.
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Post by garrett on Jan 31, 2014 10:53:47 GMT -5
hey copp I think stark bros had your giant walnuts.biggun trees were like 20.00 or so plus shipping.seedlings were mo beddah.lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 10:59:11 GMT -5
I may go the nurseryman route Red. Problem is there is a high incidence of big shell and teeni nut inside.
If'n I can get a bag o big nuts to germinate we can try grow outs based on size of sapling...
I think the buss will pull into the station faster if I can do send out to you and a couple other growers some pre-selections.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 10:59:57 GMT -5
A-n-d then you can learn how to graft nut trees...
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Post by garrett on Feb 1, 2014 1:06:01 GMT -5
me graft? grins hope springs eternal........ we'll grow em iffin we gets em...lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 11:35:28 GMT -5
The full cultivar name (*I think*) for the jumbo walnut is: juglans regia "bijou".
This alone should hint it may not be as off-grid as I was first lead to beleive.
By report it was most commonly used in jewelry making (and jewel boxes).
I'd still like to be able to make selections for vitality and set some to field.
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Post by garrett on Feb 3, 2014 11:40:25 GMT -5
a lot of seeds to sort through. copp you still want some chestnuts or have you gone walnutty all the way>? grins
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 15:02:36 GMT -5
Yea sure please and thank you for some chestnuts. They can be indeible and still do well at wisteria campground.
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Post by garrett on Feb 4, 2014 20:45:16 GMT -5
hopefully all these soldiers will cooperate....smiles
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Post by garrett on Feb 9, 2014 10:15:59 GMT -5
depending on what germinates I may line my property fenceline with nut trees..... would have to cut into the back woods and make trails.... and have the mega compost pile going in order to have enough to help them along. I keep reading various times for hybrid growth rates and nut production. I dunno iffin these Oregon nuts have blight resistance. there has never been any chestnuts in this area of texas i'm sure.....
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Post by garrett on Feb 9, 2014 10:17:25 GMT -5
copp keeps wondering what my end result will be here....rotfl in short...I wonder too....smiles wall to wall trees of somekind...... my one criteria stays true...mostly its gotta make fruit.....
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Post by garrett on Feb 9, 2014 10:19:32 GMT -5
with the nuts there is an attractive component of self sustainability....? as they mature you have some to eat...and some to regrow... selecting for size...taste..what have you.... the related species that may hybridize like the pecans and hickory? that is exciting..... or the black and English walnuts...... loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnng term throw......rotfl
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Post by garrett on Feb 9, 2014 10:20:35 GMT -5
good news fer me is lil red seems to love the stuff....smiles or she fakes an intrest so i'll eventually be quiet about it...grins
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 12:10:33 GMT -5
When I was sure I had figured out how to keep a tree inna pot, I went onna similar to you hunt for every kinda tree I could shovel into a little pot. Some worked pretty good, a few did not hunt at all. Several just plain looked goofy. A glaring disappointment to me was black cherry (prunus serotina) I had a few that were slated to go under the remodeling plow, so even though they were aged, I felt good about trying to enhance their natural endowments. Hm whazzat mean? they had dead wood, knoby bumpy lumpy features I could start from. It didn't matter a bit. the leaves (and internode length) would not reduce at all. Even presuming all I got is eleven thumbs, nothing I could do would enlarge their beauty. Over the space of many years I traded all of them away. And none of their next parents could put lipstick on them pigs... I have no idea where you aught to grow Garret. But I expect as you get tired, some kinda direction will evolve. its like athletes foot, it just grows onnya. Every asparagus patch, every berry patch, every orchard has filled my belly and whispered to my heart. I expect yours will to you too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 5:27:52 GMT -5
I dunno iffin these Oregon nuts have blight resistance. there has never been any chestnuts in this area of texas i'm sure..... The fact that your seller is offering a chestnut hybrid, it sorta has to be a hybrid. Plus Oregon is far afield from chestnuts old home range. Of the old Paul Bunyon-esk chestnut, no you are off its home range. That said, you are on two chinkapin species home range. They like your black walnut bush are more adapted for drouth. Poke a stick in the backside of one a those Texas School of Minds aggy acience geeks. If they don't got the nuts you need, they know who does. Then maybe we can get Circumspice going too. She's a neighbor of yours.
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Post by garrett on Feb 12, 2014 23:01:29 GMT -5
got a funny feeling they will produce here.call it a hunch.lol
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Post by nightmist on Feb 22, 2014 11:13:58 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised that by now nobody has linked the American Chestnut Foundation. Main site here: www.acf.org/State chapters here: www.acf.org/Chapters.phpTexas does not have a state chapter, but there is an Ozark initiative that includes Oklahoma. They might have some info for you. It always puzzles me that the Alleghany Chinkapin is never listed as having a range that includes the Alleghany forest, where it grows quite freely.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 16:17:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 16:17:59 GMT -5
They still don't part with seed, or seedlings. We're (still) not worthy.
But read on its great stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 7:23:25 GMT -5
I'm going about with hat in hand asking anybody who has published on TACF or the chinkapin site for leads to seed for trial or purchace.
What needs to be understood is if I search collegially instead of physically we incure the obligation of reporting our outcome(s).
So don't be asking for seed of my hustle on this topic if you are adverse to sharing with the donors how their seed did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 10:30:06 GMT -5
Garret dear, the window for shipping live trees in the deep south is narrow. Your silence in this matter means I will push this off for this year trying to secure chestnut for you.
You may try again next year.
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Post by garrett on Mar 7, 2014 20:02:22 GMT -5
sorry copp I been hitting it hard at work and the garden. still interested... I need some time to research more... still waiting on mine to germinate..i dropped em late but we have had a winter here for us...lol my own feeling is we forge ahead and grow our own from stock in hand..... iffin my babies cooperate i'll be able to send ya some this fall.... or this summer if they take off? I really don't have a lot of pull now on the chinkapin....but I feel that we can find some seeds....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 9:26:33 GMT -5
I have both chestnut and chinkapin (nuts) on order. A local farmers marketeer claims he will get hazelnut, carpathian walnut (regia), and pignut. You've been so off the reservation here I'm probably only willing to send you rosa rugosa seed (and no plants).
If you want to get, you got to give...
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Post by Notcoppice on Jan 9, 2015 11:37:13 GMT -5
Red, I have no idea what you are or aren't doing, but there is a very impressive offer of chestnuts on Alan Bishops old Homegrown Goodness forums int the trades forum. Its free, go get some. No really go get at least a look-see.
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Post by Stillnotcoppice on Jan 9, 2015 11:43:41 GMT -5
copp been crazy busy over here..i'll get seeds and a few surprises out in the next 7 days.smiles I think if you comb through your old posts you will find many offers of return(ed) seeds-trees like this that never ever got returned. Which is why I am still mad at you.
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