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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jan 4, 2015 23:32:12 GMT -5
Well I plan to plant:
Craig Grande Jalapeño Purple Jalapeño- mild they say Ethiopian Brown-pretty hot Caribbean RedHabanero-scorching hot Red Marconi-sweet and an old standby, the only old one this year Large Sweet Antigua-sweet of course
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Post by Cliffrat on Jan 11, 2015 21:41:04 GMT -5
Last year I planted Big Jim and Santa Fe Grande. Both are fairly mild in terms of heat, but huge on flavor. The Santa Fe were not so "Grande" as they only made it to a max of 3 inches long. More like Santa Fe Pequeno..... The Sweet Red bell from the year before I had cut back and it laughed at me and grew again. Produced more peppers this year than last. So I cut it back again after the last big chill. Did the same to the hot peppers. I wonder if they will grow again too.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jan 11, 2015 21:48:56 GMT -5
The Santa Fe I planted about 4 years ago. Mine were hotter than a jalapeño and sound like they were bigger than yours. Last years peppers were duds.
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Post by Cliffrat on Jan 12, 2015 18:29:43 GMT -5
Well I'm also planting some of those Red Marconi and some Purple Beauty peppers this year. The Santa Fe produced lots, and I mean lots, of peppers this year. I think they like things a little dry. Don't water them too much.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jan 13, 2015 10:09:27 GMT -5
Red Marconi will be highly productive but will hit it's real production towards fall and then produce till heavy frost.
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Post by garrett on Jan 26, 2015 11:13:00 GMT -5
what ya'lls growing this year?
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Jan 26, 2015 17:51:21 GMT -5
Well I plan to plant: Craig Grande Jalapeño Purple Jalapeño- mild they say Ethiopian Brown-pretty hot Caribbean RedHabanero-scorching hot Red Marconi-sweet and an old standby, the only old one this year Large Sweet Antigua-sweet of course Right here Red
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Post by desertrat on Jan 28, 2015 11:51:24 GMT -5
These are all up and out in the sunshine:
Screaming hot yellow not peter's pepper Palmyra, sweet from Turkey Sulu Adana, rare Turkish heirloom, sweet Matay, sweet (I think) Aji habanero hot Doe Hill Faludi Beaver Dam Tomato pepper, sweet New Mexico heritage, green chile Melrose, sweet Chimayo Nativo, green chile Large Sweet Antigua, very sweet, one of my favorites Puya Trinidad Perfume, sweet supposed to taste like habanero Peperone di Sinese, sweet Orange Bell Peperone corno rosso, sweet Lipstick, sweet California wonder Sweet Banana Red Marconi Fish pepper, hot Traveler Jalapeno
I will plant at least 1 of most of these in my garden, others will go to a garden club plant sale. Now I've just got to find room for them!
And I already have several Melrose in a grow box still producing along with a couple of fish peppers that aren't blooming now.
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Post by garrett on Feb 20, 2015 16:32:06 GMT -5
got some peppers germinating at my moms. i'll plant whatever shes got in store for us. some nice lists ya'll have.smiles
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Post by cliffrat on Feb 22, 2015 23:44:36 GMT -5
I still have to wait a bit for the purple and Marconi to get big enough to plant outside. I do have a couple of perennial peppers coming back again from last year. It looks like two of the Santa Fe and that pepper volunteer I let live last year both are coming back after cutting them back pretty hard. I don't know yet about the Big Jim. He may come back again.
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Post by zinniagirl on Feb 23, 2015 9:32:06 GMT -5
I started my peppers on Feb 3 and today I noticed some true leaves. My favorite sweet is Islander, a hybrid from Johnny's, but this may be my last year for them, the seed is just too darn expensive for me. Also have quadrato asti giallo which has done just okay for me in the past. Am trying mini belles for the first time. For the hots, I really like Pinetree's hot pepper mix--never sure what they are but they work out well for me. Also hot red cherry and hot hungarian wax. I need lots of hots cause hubby just loves them canned in a sweet brine.
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Post by directsunlight on Feb 23, 2015 11:48:22 GMT -5
Aji Dulce habanero Fooled You jalapeño Purple beauty pepper (or is it purple wonder?) Orange blaze paper Tam jalapeño Mix of different colors of bell pepper
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Post by cliffrat on Feb 23, 2015 14:53:10 GMT -5
Hey Zinnia Girl, why don't you keep one or two of the islander peppers isolated so they don't cross pollinate with other peppers? That way you can save a couple of the peppers for next year's seeds.
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Post by garrett on Feb 23, 2015 21:18:26 GMT -5
islander peppers? like Gilligan peppers?grins
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Feb 23, 2015 22:50:54 GMT -5
Maybe some big fat Skipper Peppers, a Spicey Ginger, and a saucy Mary Anne?
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Post by zinniagirl on Feb 24, 2015 9:15:14 GMT -5
Hey Zinnia Girl, why don't you keep one or two of the islander peppers isolated so they don't cross pollinate with other peppers? That way you can save a couple of the peppers for next year's seeds. Unfortunately, Islander is a hybrid. It's purple with an ivory interior. Very sweet and mild, usually thick-walled for me. Years ago, I had taken some to work and my boss who usually could not eat peppers loved them and they didn't bother her at all.
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Post by LinFL on Feb 25, 2015 18:09:58 GMT -5
Here is my 2015 pepper list:
*** = returning from last year
Sweet: Alliance Hybrid Doux Long d'Antibes Early Sunsation Hybrid*** Lipstick NuMex Sweet Orange bell pepper (seed saved from a supermarket pepper)*** Sweet Hungarian
Hot (well, sort of hot, anyway): Black Hungarian Chichimeca Hybrid*** Czech Black Mosquetero Hybrid (ancho) NuMex Primavera (mild jalepeno) NuMex R Naky Shishito***
I had also dropped seeds for Sweet Parade, but had no luck with them. One weak seedling that couldn't shed its seed coat, and no germination otherwise.
I dropped most of the pepper seed in January. However, The NuMex pepper seeds I got late (my original order never came, but when I contacted NMSU they were nice enough to send a replacement order. So those I sowed on February 17th. Since by that time I knew that Sweet Parade wasn't working out, I planted a few more NuMex Primavera...I had kind of wanted an Earthbox full of those anyway.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Feb 25, 2015 20:15:38 GMT -5
Well the Ethiopian Brown peppers only had about 50% germination even with a heating pad. Fortunately I planted 12 which leaves me 6.
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Post by cliffrat on Feb 25, 2015 23:33:53 GMT -5
I let my impatience get the better of me today and I planted those little pepper seedlings in the cage along with a few tomato plants that probably weren't ready either. I just couldn't keep them in the bedroom anymore. Then I realized I had more seedlings than I had containers. Now what do I do? I am really envious of all you folks with these huge assortments of stuff growing in your gardens. I just don't have the room. Maybe next year I'll change tactics and focus on just two or three types of veggies and grow more varieties.
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Post by LinFL on Feb 26, 2015 12:08:05 GMT -5
Cliffrat, I have a small garden, so I hear you. I do devote the bulk of my summer space to peppers and tomatoes, though I have scaled back the tomatoes some this year to have room for more green beans and such. I do a lot of vertical growing (trellises, cages, etc.) to maximize the number of plants I can get into my garden.
My peppers will be fine inside for a few weeks. I actually got all of my peppers started a little later than usual this year. And I started the NuMex peppers much later than usual.
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Post by tropgrower on Feb 28, 2015 21:57:45 GMT -5
I really need to give the peppers another try this year.I am afraid that all my seed will be to old to germ however. I tried some Marconis and Jimmy Nardello,and a couple of Anaheim types,but couldn't get them to size up before they started flowering.That is the trouble with growing domestic varieties in a foreign location.With a 12/12 light cycle nearly year round,it is hard to get the plants to veg long enough to obtain any size.I would use some aux lighting to extend the daylight hours,but that draws bugs,and is fairly expensive here. Still,some things are just necessary.
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Post by LinFL on Mar 1, 2015 0:07:38 GMT -5
tropgrower, pepper seeds can be viable for several years if stored properly...how old are your seeds? It's surprising to me that a 12/12 light cycle is a problem for peppers - peppers are from the subtropics and tropics, right? I know that in my garden, if peppers get stunted (held too long without transplanting) or stressed in any other way they will try to bloom and fruit prematurely. When your plants have tried to fruit prematurely, have they been showing any signs of stress? Could they be suffering from heat, bugs, disease, irregular watering, or any other problem? Two other things that you might think about: 1. Shade cloth - if your garden gets full sun, in a hot tropical environment that can be a stress for some peppers, particularly bells and other large, sweet peppers. There have been experiments with bell peppers in Florida edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs368 and Georgia www.caes.uga.edu/applications/gafaces/?public=viewStory&pk_id=4416 recently in which they learned that shade cloth (30% shade seems to be optimum) actually increased marketable yield and extended the harvesting season. In the Georgia study, they also observed that the plants grown under the shade cloth had fewer diseases, were taller, and had more and larger leaves than the plants grown in full sun. Neither Florida nor Georgia are tropical, but they do have hot, humid summers with warm summer nights. So I think it's possible that these findings would be relevant to tropical areas, too. Hot and superhot peppers can take the heat and sun better, so they probably don't need shading. 2. Have you tried pinching off all of the bloom buds for several weeks to try to force the plants to put on more size before letting them produce? The plants will keep producing flower buds, but as long as the plants don't have fruit to support, they should keep growing bigger, too. When the plants are the size you want you can quit pinching and let them fruit. I routinely do this with bell peppers and other large sweet peppers - I've learned that if the plant is 18" or taller before I let it set any fruit, I get bigger and more fruit. With the small hot peppers, I usually let them fruit when they want, because fruiting doesn't seem to interfere that much with their growth. Whatever you try, I hope it works for you, and you have a great pepper season this year.
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Post by tropgrower on Mar 1, 2015 1:29:21 GMT -5
That was a very helpful post LinFL.
I couldn't explain why I was having trouble with my peppers,so I immediately suspected that it was because I was trying peppers outside of their preferred environment.You have certainly given me some other options to consider.The plants were not stressed when they went out,but perhaps they had reflected heat that they had a hard time adjusting to.That season was one of our first years here,and i didn't have time to do it properly,so they were planted next to a wall.I never considered that what I was doing might negatively impact my plants.
The seed is several years old now,and for the first year didn't get proper storage.I'm going to give it a whirl again,and hope for the best,as choices of variety here are limited to 1 or 2 standard varieties.(that I have been able to find).
Also thanks for the suggestion of shade cloth.I have actually been thinking seriously about doing just that.The closest place to source shade net is in Manila..that is a 6hr drive one way,and not something you undertake on a whim.Manila has even-odd license plate days to combat traffic congestion,so you have to plan a trip dependent upon the day of the week,or risk a fine.But,some things are just worth it.Lol
Thanks again for the help and advice...Trop
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Post by LinFL on Mar 1, 2015 19:32:20 GMT -5
Hopefully your old seed will sprout! I'm guessing it is expensive and/or against local agricultural regulations to get US seed vendors to send you seeds? If you are open to growing pepper plants that might produce some surprises, you might be able to scrounge seed for some other varieties from you local stores and markets. If there are fresh peppers that you like in your stores and markets, you can always try to grow out their seeds. Yes, peppers do cross readily, but if they were grown on a good size farm, chances are that they were grown in a field of the same variety. That means that your odds of getting pure seed are pretty good. If you are shopping from small market stands, the grower may only have relatively few plants of each variety, so your odds of getting a crossed pepper are higher. But you might still get lucky...or you might get really lucky and find a crossed pepper that you like. It's admittedly a bit of a crap shoot, but sometimes it works. My current orange bell pepper plants are from seed from a grocery store pepper that I bought a couple of years ago. Many peppers used in commercial agriculture are hybrids, but often they are hybrids of similar peppers that are being bred to combine particular traits. So their offspring may not be exactly the same as the parent, but it is often pretty close. For example, my orange peppers seem the same as the grocery store pepper except that they are a bit smaller. I don't think it's my growing conditions because my other bells are bigger. But the orange bells are still a good useable size, so it is fine. Oh, you might also be able to get viable seed from dried peppers - it depends on how much heat was used in the drying, how long ago the pepper was dried, and how well it was stored. The trickiest thing is getting viable seeds from peppers that are sold green. If you can find a pepper that is starting to turn color even a little, buy it and hold it at room temperature to see if it will ripen more before going bad. Save the seeds before it goes bad - there is a chance you might get some viable seed. Save all the seed you can and sow a lot because germination rates could be low. Again, it's a risk, but sometimes it works. __________________________ You might also be able to trade for seeds with gardeners here or on other forums. I just looked it up, and as long as you use regular first class mail, postage from the US to the Philippines is not bad at all. It would be $1.15 for a standard letter weighing under 1 oz. That would hold a few small packs of seeds. For larger trades, for $6.71 someone can ship a large envelope (under 3.4" thick and less than 12" on any side) to you. That would let one mail a padded envelope that could hold quite a few packs of seed. However, I don't know anything about the Phililppines' agricultural regulations, so I don't know whether or not it's likely that the seeds would be confiscated. Unfortunately, the US has been bad in recent months about confiscating imported seeds, so US gardeners sometimes don't get the seeds their international friends send them.
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Post by tropgrower on Mar 1, 2015 21:17:43 GMT -5
I am hopeful that I can get at least a couple of the pepper seeds to sprout.
The choice of varieties here are really limited.It might be my location too.Maybe the local vendors just don't stock anything out of the norm.What we have bought here are smallish bell type peppers.I heard that there is at least one pepper that has some minimal heat,but I haven't been able to find any.There are plants available occasionally at the local outdoor market.Typically sold in a bunch of 6 plants or so wrapped in a banana leaf or similar.
I learned soon after moving here that it is really difficult to send or receive almost anything thru the mail.Mail service here is a cooperation of a government program,and private contractors.The result is a high incidence of theft and pilferage of the mail and/or contents because the contractors are paid so little.I have all items that I need (including any vegetable seed),sent to family who send us "care packages" a couple times a year.Actually have one care package about to be sent now.Anyway,that is the only way we have been able to get things sent here securely.There might be restrictions on imported seed,but the law is not enforced.We brought some tomato seed and some live plants in our luggage once,and nothing was said when the luggage was inspected.
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Post by garrett on Mar 1, 2015 23:31:15 GMT -5
Wow Lin I didn't know you were so versatle.smiles You see got mad skills.smiles Get er done ya'lls!
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Post by LinFL on Mar 2, 2015 9:18:16 GMT -5
Thanks, Garrett. Trop, the nice thing about the tropical climate is that it is warm enough to grow peppers all year. So maybe this spring and summer you can pick out varieties and have your family get them for you and include them in a care package this fall. Looking at the climate, starting pepper seeds indoors in the late summer and transplanting them outside as soon as the rainy season ends should work out. That way the plants can get established and set some fruit in the cooler months. Well, "cooler" compared to the rest of the year, anyway. By the way, after looking at the climate data for Manila...remind me never to complain about my rainy season. You get an average of 42" of rain in August alone, holy smokes!
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Mar 2, 2015 21:03:56 GMT -5
Waldo pulled over my seed starting tray tonight. Now I have 25 unidentified pepper plants. Half a dozen were a rare sweet antigua pepper but half a dozen were scorching hot red habaneros. The rest were jalapeños. I might be able to identify the purple jalapeños.
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Post by tropgrower on Mar 3, 2015 1:10:29 GMT -5
Thanks, Garrett. Trop, the nice thing about the tropical climate is that it is warm enough to grow peppers all year. So maybe this spring and summer you can pick out varieties and have your family get them for you and include them in a care package this fall. Looking at the climate, starting pepper seeds indoors in the late summer and transplanting them outside as soon as the rainy season ends should work out. That way the plants can get established and set some fruit in the cooler months. Well, "cooler" compared to the rest of the year, anyway. By the way, after looking at the climate data for Manila...remind me never to complain about my rainy season. You get an average of 42" of rain in August alone, holy smokes! Yes on the putting out plants right after the rains.I'm learning to start them earlier each year,as the weather is great then for growing virtually everything. Rain.My gosh you have never seen rain till you have seen a Monsoon.I really like it to tell the truth.Really slows everything down when it rains like that.Of course it is a hardship for many,as flooding comes hand in hand due to poor or blocked drainage everywhere.Not to mention that for a big big percentage of people here,cooking is still done over an open flame.It's hard to cook when the wood you are using is wet..and the wind is blowing.We are bordering a good size river,and it has been known to get outside it's banks pretty regularly during Monsoon and especially Typhoons as the wind will actually drive the water. gcg: Sorry to hear about your pepper predicament.As I recall,the same thing happened to Camo one year when his dog did the same thing to all his seeds that were drying.
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Post by LinFL on Mar 3, 2015 10:38:47 GMT -5
I can probably imagine monsoon rains pretty well - we get summer thunderstorms that can drop 3"-4" of rain per hour in the summer. Hurricanes often drop 6"-10" when they come ashore - one of them dropped 2 feet of rain in one day!
The difference is that for us those rains are occasional events - we don't get heavy rains *every* *single* *day* for months on end. I'm sure it makes for a lush jungle, but how on earth do you keep tomatoes and peppers alive in those conditions? Or do you even try to grow them during the monsoon months?
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