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Post by garrett on Jan 5, 2012 23:18:18 GMT -5
are they expensive?what do you do?show them?breeding? ;D
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Post by leasure0911 on Jan 10, 2012 15:52:43 GMT -5
Horses are costly to keep and with the economy and price of feed and hay, you typically cant give them away around here. I have a Tennessee Walker mare that I am hoping to get bred to a Donkey in spring to get a gaited mule.
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Post by marielouise on Jan 10, 2012 21:06:31 GMT -5
My sons have horses--- they have in the past bred broke trained and sold horses--- yep is an expensive hobby. Oldest Grdau has barrel raced since she was 3 -- tiny tots div. was running in the money up til last year in the smaller local rodeo organizations , she s 20 now. She still has 3, her barrel horse ( a paint) plus 2 others shes training, one is in the stages of being broke to ride. He still likes to buck when she first gets on so that has to be worked outa him. The youngest son & wife only have one horse now, dil runs barrels on the weekends . She did have 2 others over there that she was training on barrels --they have returned to their owners now . I figure another coupla months she will have a couple more to train or in some cases retrain . Daughter and her hubby have I think 2 maybe 3 --- they ride and use them to move their cows from one pasture to another. The 2 kids also ride every once in awhile and in the local parades . They don't do the rodeos other than maybe the kids boot race and sheep riding. Their 9 year old daughter beat out all the boys last year for hanging onto that sheep the longest. She had her arms and legs wrapped thightly around that critter---it was so funny . She had decided at the last minute to participate after a dare from a little boy her age--- girls can't ride type comment. Don't ever tell that child she can't do something simply cuz shes a girl!
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Post by garrett on Jan 13, 2012 11:50:33 GMT -5
grins go lilbit..........
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Post by vblack on Apr 13, 2012 15:45:44 GMT -5
Red, We started breeding and found out most people won't buy a 3 month old colt. They want a full grown well seasoned well trained horse to ride right away. So, no it is not profitable at all. I think if you show and win but then you have to have a lot of $$ up front. I am selling a kids horse this weekend to a family. He is going on 10 yrs old and we have had him since the day he was born. Asked 1500.00 for him since my son rode him for 7 years. They actually asked if I would go down on the price. 0: I was like nope, if he don't get purchased for 1500.00 he is not going anywhere. I actually wanted more but the times are hard.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 13, 2012 15:53:06 GMT -5
In the early 90's, breeding and selling horses was a profitable business. Those days are long gone. Feed prices are sky high and like vBlack says, there is a glut on the market of good equine stock so buyers are looking for rock bottom prices. When we were trying to sell my mare and his stallion, everyone wanted my mare; no one wanted the boy. People were offering to buy her and board him for a fee then want to use him for stud for nothing...Do I have Stupid written across my forehead??
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Post by vblack on Apr 13, 2012 16:49:37 GMT -5
That is what I want to tell people, Blue! Because either they have no idea the amount of money i have already forked over to have a horse for 10 yrs and train him to perfection or don't appreciate the time and money someone else has put into the horse. Really, I never care to breed again. I have a stud right now with papers Tobiano paint that I have never bred and now don't intend to...he will be getting gelded for sure this month. It is surely a slap in the face the offer for you to pay for boarding them to pimp your horse out.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 14, 2012 7:51:50 GMT -5
Yeah, needless to say that person lost her opportunity to buy my mare. She was angry but I was Angrier!
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Post by w8n4dave on Apr 16, 2012 13:03:41 GMT -5
I used to live with my ex-inlaws they used to breed POA's ....Beautiful ponys but dang it if you don't get the color then ..your outta luck My kids took them to fair showed them , went to state ...My Oldest Suzi trained and showed but now lives in the city ......
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Post by vblack on Apr 17, 2012 10:24:00 GMT -5
A good horse is never a bad color for sure, Wendy!
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Post by w8n4dave on Apr 18, 2012 8:05:47 GMT -5
That is tru V.. but in the poa world when your breeding for color like an appy .... you won't get a whole lot for no color ..... They did have great ponies color or no color ... I don't have pics on my computer darn it ... it was a fun time , I am glad I didn't have to pay for it tho .... specially now in MI. a good second cutting of hay is 6.00 a bail pfftttt Wow huh?? And we only usually get 3 cuttings if your lucky .... Usually good rich Alfalfa ......
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Post by vblack on Apr 19, 2012 17:08:01 GMT -5
Coastal is going for 8.00-12.00/ bail down here. That's why we had such a hard winter. I down sized the herd from 13 to now 5 horses. I have three 2 yr olds and 2 mares. I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders.
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Post by w8n4dave on Apr 19, 2012 19:41:31 GMT -5
Ohhhh I bet V wow I know it is expensive to have them between the feed, the hay , everything you need to handle them ... it is very expensive , We don't "usually" do round bails unless it is a certain kind of hay . we do square bails, I am not sure what kind of bails your talkin .. But 12 bucks a bail??? Wow!! if is a round bail good deal but not square bail ....
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Apr 19, 2012 21:10:54 GMT -5
W8in, I recall back in 2002 or 2003, a forum pal in AZ saying she paid $7.00 for small squares, while I was paying $2 a bale. We are fortunate here in the northeast to have good forage crops, while much of the southern U.S. does not.
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Post by vblack on Apr 20, 2012 11:19:05 GMT -5
Yes, that is square bail, Wendy. Round bails this winter got as high as 185.00 whereas in the summer I got them for 60.00. People were gouging us for sure. They shipped a lot of hay in from up North and it was different hay than what we were use to.
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Post by w8n4dave on Apr 20, 2012 12:03:14 GMT -5
We never used round bails for our horses always the square bails.. Wow 7.00 a bail!! Wow!! I thought 6 was alot! I am so glad we do not do all the showing anymore. Alot of work!! But it was fun for the Kids and taught them alot ....
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Post by garrett on Apr 20, 2012 12:03:32 GMT -5
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.that is extortion.
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Post by dirtdobber on Apr 22, 2012 11:12:33 GMT -5
Never owned one rode several. My Doctor has a few he is a cowboy at heart.
Funny story my best friend had three I helped fence in his land. Before they boarded them his wife put me on the black one she forgot to mention it was an ex barrel horse so she walked me into the pen and boom it was gone no problem I knew how to ride but did not know it was going to do the very sharp turn it was trained to do I did not fall off did the other two turns got control lol then she said oops forgot to tell you. If you went riding in the pasture and it saw a fence gate post it would hall booty and try to get your knee on the post. Mean azz horse.
Price of hay is rediculous now. They bought round bails guy loaded and delivered for free back in the eighties.
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Post by marielouise on Apr 27, 2012 17:14:48 GMT -5
Last year hay was scarce here in Texas cuz of the drought and fires! In this area alone people who normally get 3 or 4 cuttings of hay were dang lucky to get one full cutting. Thats why the bales, round and square, were so much higher, most hay was brought in from other states therefore their travel expences had to be figured in. Plus the price the haulers had to pay for the hay.
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Post by vblack on May 29, 2012 9:34:58 GMT -5
I am really missing our kids horse..but I called them to see how he was doing. They told me he was getting lots of kisses and food and getting really spoiled. Johnny would joke and call him a P.O.A. even though he was technically a APHA. He was kind of short. Round Bales still high over here odd for May.
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Post by firebringer on Jun 1, 2012 2:09:38 GMT -5
Horses are costly to keep and with the economy and price of feed and hay, you typically can't give them away around here. I have a Tennessee Walker mare that I am hoping to get bred to a Donkey in spring to get a gaited mule. That's a great idea. I've been riding a gaited mare mule part Mountain horse. Moves wonderfully, and is trained in dressage.
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Post by firebringer on Jun 1, 2012 2:25:15 GMT -5
Never owned one rode several. My Doctor has a few he is a cowboy at heart. Funny story my best friend had three I helped fence in his land. Before they boarded them his wife put me on the black one she forgot to mention it was an ex barrel horse so she walked me into the pen and boom it was gone no problem I knew how to ride but did not know it was going to do the very sharp turn it was trained to do I did not fall off did the other two turns got control lol then she said oops forgot to tell you. If you went riding in the pasture and it saw a fence gate post it would hall booty and try to get your knee on the post. Mean azz horse. Price of hay is rediculous now. They bought round bails guy loaded and delivered for free back in the eighties. Rode a school horse 38 years ago who liked to smash my knee into trees, while on trail rides. He as not especially mean, but mostly crafty. I really liked the big lug. He was a beautiful strawberry roan.
I know a lady in the county who breeds thoroughbreds and another person who breeds Hanoverians for dressage. Hay prices are out of sight. We get the round bales for the barn where I ride. I'm always doing fundraisers for their rescue/therapy horses for their grain and hay as part of my sweat equity in exchange for lessons.
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