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Post by garrett on Feb 17, 2012 10:33:28 GMT -5
julia childs?bobby flay?grins
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Feb 17, 2012 11:38:47 GMT -5
No doubt in my mind at all. Julia Child was and always will be The Best IMO. There are others whose shows I quite enjoyed. They include: The Frugal Gourmet (Jeff Smith) Heston Blumenthal (BBC) Bobby Flay The BBC also had a series called Hairy Bikers. The History Channel now has an American version and if you haven't seen it, Shame On You! It combines motorcycles, travel across the southern U.S. (they are from TX) and foods found on the road. Yes, even an episode on choosing and preparing RoadKill and Foraging for Wild Fungi. Paul Patranella was a chef to Geo Bush Sr. www.history.com/shows/hairy-bikersAnd lastly, I greatly admired James Beard's career as a chef. I have one of his books which is in the top 3 of the most used cookbooks in my cupboard. Although his TV show aired at the dawn of Television, and apparently was not taped for future generations to enjoy, he did guest appearances on other shows. His legacy lives on in the work done by the James Beard Foundation to promote talent in the food industry.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Feb 17, 2012 11:59:43 GMT -5
Not Bobby Flay , that bald headed guy Michael Simon is better. There are several other good ones.
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Post by Train on Feb 17, 2012 12:16:10 GMT -5
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I'll put my vote in for Julia Childs as best TV chef, her and Jacques Pepin. Both tops as french chefs. But comes to Italian foods it's Antonino Esposito hands down and he is on TV, Italian TV. Heheh Train
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Post by camochef on Feb 17, 2012 20:06:01 GMT -5
Julia Childs??? We watch her everyday at 2PM. Its the best comedy on TV! How she ever was taken seriously is beyond me. She's a butcher! Perhaps, if she put her glasses on so she could see what she was doing. Talk about someone that's rough. Now I do like her books, especially those on baking, and I liked her shows where she had guest bakers like Jacques Pepin or Nancy Silverton or Jeffrey Alford and Naomi Duguid and Julia did nothing but comment once in a while. Fortunately, her show is followed by Laura Caulder's French Cooking at home which really is enjoyable. I also like watching Giada De Laurentis's "Cooking Italian" which is on many times throughout the day on different channels but my favorite is Ming Tsai on Saturdays at noon. I think I learn more from him than any other TV cook. Although I did learn many basics from Alton Brown back when the original "Good Eats" was first on TV. I always liked Jeff Smith (the Frugal Gourmet) and I'm glad I have all his cookbooks. I probably started with him, and still refer to many of his recipes. Then too, I found Justin Wilson more than entertaining. As phony as his Schtick was it was enjoyable, and he could cook. Of course my real cooking/baking heroes don't have TV shows, but they have authored many a fine cookbook. James Petterson, Peter Reinhart, James Beard, and many others. I favor those that teach theory rather than just supply a recipe to follow. I find most TV cooks simply supply a recipe and don't give the reasons that things occur the way they do. This is especially true in baking. Enjoy! Camo
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Post by txdirtdog on Feb 17, 2012 21:34:56 GMT -5
Julia Childs, Justin Wilson, Paul Prudohme, Bobby Flay, Ming Tsai, Martin Yan, even my beloved Paula Deen (as we've mentioned in past, gotta love a lady that starts a recipe: "take a stick of butter") are all great chefs/cooks. They teach how to make a top notch recipe.
My favorite of all time is because of something Camo touched on -
Alton Brown.
He teaches the science of it. The whys and wherefores. I have learned many an interesting fact from him. Since I spend most of my time puttering around on the left side of my cranium, some of his stuff really catches my attention. Course the Mrs. at first always got a concerned look on her face when I would tune in Good Eats and then leave the room. After a while, she started laughing along with me.
Basically if I can understand the cause/effect relationship of stuff, I can get my fingers around it and squeeze that "clay" and make the ingredients my own.
I like that.
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Post by garrett on Feb 18, 2012 2:10:54 GMT -5
da chef warz?smiles
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Post by camochef on Feb 18, 2012 23:00:36 GMT -5
Garrett, No wars here, just difference of opinons. Normally I would have ignored this and kept my opinon to myself, but there could be no worse cook on the planet than Julia. We really do watch her shows regularly, and she really is a comedy, although a disaster would be more of an accurite description. There are many good chefs and cooks out there, but I cannot see her as one. The shows on TV now are mostly from the 60's and 70's and they really are more of a comedy than anything else. Perhaps, in her earlier days she was better, but I cannot recall a time that I'd seen one of her shows and felt impressed. Just this week she made beef bourguignonne and she didn't like the beef cubes they supplied so she literally threw them across the room. Have you ever seen her take a cleaver to a large fish, it's something you'll never forget, after you finally catch your breath. Watch her shows and then tell me it's not one of the funniest comedies on TV. But to each their own and I'm done commenting on her lack of finese. Enjoy! Camo
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Feb 18, 2012 23:29:14 GMT -5
It's hard to say without actually eating their cooking. Some are more showmen then chefs in my opinion. That is why I like to watch Chopped, they are all young chefs and they have to work with what they are given or have on hand. To make something out of what turnes up is a true gift. My uncles robbed a wild bee tree once and had a lot of really dark honey. Grand mother looked at it a minute. Then she got some of the pecans from the front yard, some of the eggs from the chickens, some butter from the previous days milking, some flour from her flour drawer, and the honey. 30 minutes better there were some of the best cookies ever with out a recipe or a measuring devise used.
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Post by capebuff on Feb 28, 2012 19:56:59 GMT -5
emiril deserves at least an honorable mention. i think his soul is tied to his food. love watching rachel ray , although i don't try and recreate her food much. i guess i watch cause shes cute and bubbly. same about giada , she dresses nice. i guess i'm just not concentrating on their food. that cheeky southern gal paula is fave. i really like bout all i guess. food network is a fave channel. alton is a good teacher, but i get tips from many . as far as julia goes.. ;D i just crack when dad watches her and then walks around imitating her laugh. i'm jealous, he does it better than me.
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Feb 28, 2012 22:02:04 GMT -5
Chopped is on now. I get a lot of ideas from these unknown chefs.
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Post by Train on Apr 24, 2012 8:18:17 GMT -5
Ya Now everyone is calm again I can say that the very best TV chef anywhere, world wide is Antonino Esposito. Hands down. Train
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Post by catgrass on Apr 24, 2012 11:59:59 GMT -5
If you're from the South from Texas to Florida-Justin Wilson, hands down. True Cajun cooking & great story telling at it's best. John Folshe would be next. Not much on the others, rarely watch cooking shows cause I don't wanna!!!
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Post by vblack on Apr 24, 2012 13:55:30 GMT -5
I second that...catgrass! Love that man! youtu.be/eK4umRMJlrsI have never really watched Julia Childs cooking show. Now I have to watch it. Giada from the foodnetwork has some good shows and I have cooked some of her stuff. The Spicy Chicken rocks!
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Post by Train on Apr 24, 2012 15:19:16 GMT -5
Ya
I loved Justin too but the best TV chef is Antonino. Ya gotta be alive right? Anyway Justin is on a world wide stage and to me that makes a difference. Heheh Train
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Post by vblack on Apr 24, 2012 16:25:19 GMT -5
Train, I guess I have not watched Antonio yet. Lol!
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Post by Train on Apr 24, 2012 16:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by catgrass on Apr 25, 2012 9:43:19 GMT -5
I don't even know who Antonia is...but, I don't watch much cooking shows. In fact, I don't watch much TV! I like the ones that tell a story while they cook. Like at home.
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Post by vblack on Apr 27, 2012 16:33:27 GMT -5
Thanks Train!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 8:21:52 GMT -5
Julia Child was part of how people video-ed cooking. She gets pioneer status from me (this and two bucks will buy you a cuppa coffee).
For the guys who hustle the best on TV, its a tossup between Mario Batali and Massaharu Morimoto. I can get tired just watching them...
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Post by Train on May 4, 2012 13:16:46 GMT -5
Julia Child was part of how people video-ed cooking. She gets pioneer status from me (this and two bucks will buy you a cuppa coffee). For the guys who hustle the best on TV, its a tossup between Mario Batali and Massaharu Morimoto. I can get tired just watching them... Ya Oh no. It's way more than that. Julia graduated from the best culinary arts school in France earning her french chef status. Julia, a very capable french chef had a buss load of training and experience when she first appeared as the french chef on US TV. Julia was never afraid to deliberately err on her program for the sake of demonstrating what not to do and the results of doing it anyway. No other TV chef ever did that. Much later in her years she gravitated to the role of an interviewer who stood next to a guest chef prompting them, allowing them to shine yet very much with or ahead of them. We watched Julia from a young woman to a retiring elder lady who was way past her physical prime who now leaned on the counter a lot. Aren't we the lucky nation for Julia may well have set up in Briton instead. Julia taught several generations not only how to cook but kitchen generalship allowing the new cook to pivot on their own and who among them would have dreamed to prepare such goodies as Beef bourguignon on their own? www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrnXvE9FqdoYeah, we can all tip out hat to a grand lady who was the French Chef. Train
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 15:11:46 GMT -5
Oh I'll grant you Julia Child was very trained. But beyond her time at classical kitchen, she and her producers created most of the format of how to video tape cooking.
I watch her still for skill points.
Martha Stewart couldn't hold up one of her apron strings...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 9:44:53 GMT -5
I dunno where Vivian Howard will stack up in the constelation of modern celebrity chefs. Listening to her thinking on the PBS show; A Chefs Life, does serve as a good framing of modern metropolitan chefs.
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Post by kay on Mar 30, 2014 18:15:49 GMT -5
Frugal gourmet. Still use his cookbook...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 11:02:29 GMT -5
Vivian Howard is supposed to do a piece on apple jack today in her min-series "A Chefs Life".
I've seen spirits be cold distilled, I wonder how much she'll show.
Postscript: Phooey, its all in a term I guess. In new England "apple jack" is the cold-distilled spirits of cider. IMO it carries more fruit perfume than hot-distilled spirits do.
In Ms Howards' Carolina "apple jack" is an apple jelly.
This segment did show a micro-distillery, and had Vivian use moonshine in her cooking. Still I feel a little let down. *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:46:51 GMT -5
While Vivian Howard is part of this new generation of celebrity-chefs. I'm still real partial to the old series Two Fat Ladies cheffed by Clarisa Dickson Wright, and Jennifer Paterson. Neither of whom ever met a stick of butter they didn't like...
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Post by garrett on Apr 28, 2014 10:27:11 GMT -5
train.smiles
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