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Post by garrett on Mar 15, 2012 16:05:53 GMT -5
2 agents visited the old redneck here and confiscated all my pummelo and foreign citrus seeds. plants actually sigh. 7-8 inches and puuuuuuuuuuurdy. i could turn this into a political thread but we all agreed. i will say the florida and texas citrus industry is safe now. rotfl they said i could go and plant seeds from the store ie whole foods ect. but not from outta the country.lol oh well. not restarting any citrus.ruined this year for me. and i'll be damned if i pay 30.00 or if i could smiles fer a grafted tree from a ''certified'' grower.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 15, 2012 19:31:55 GMT -5
Now Garrett, you and I had a talk about this and I agreed to soften my stance. Besides, this is a direct action on a member here, not just a hypothetical situation. So how did they find out about your seedlings? Were they lurking here on the site? Or someone turned you in that you mentioned it to? That stinks, but yes, you have to be careful in an area that relies on fruit as a major industry. In the fruit region of Niagara Ontario, the Inspectors come to home gardens I'm told and make recommendations, etc Up here, I've also known people who have had their backyard chicken eggs confiscated because they aren't licensed to sell eggs. We have LOTS of legislation regarding that... Sorry Redperson. That's a Tough Break.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 5:56:49 GMT -5
Um yes, how did the revenoo-ers find out about your citrus?
Did they take other seedlings too?
Whats left, what can I send you?
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Post by marielouise on Mar 16, 2012 23:56:05 GMT -5
Well aint that the pits!!! sorry bubba. and how did they know? ?
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Post by bella on Mar 17, 2012 0:07:05 GMT -5
Whaaaat - that makes me absolutely furious.....grrrrr...... Yes, how did they know, and most of all, what is the reason you aren't allowed to grow that particular seed?? I hate hearing that people can't sell meat or eggs from their own animals - we did for years; guess we were just lucky. I'll shut up about it, but it is just not fair, or right...........
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Post by garrett on Mar 17, 2012 1:20:16 GMT -5
here's what was.
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Post by bella on Mar 17, 2012 1:25:01 GMT -5
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Post by kay on Mar 17, 2012 8:26:36 GMT -5
My heart breaks for you. A friend had her 5 year old lemon tree confiscated....and it was from a certified grower.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 10:09:28 GMT -5
Red, they busted your citrus, did they take the prunus too?
I'm trying to think of a fruiting family the plant revenoorers aren't chasing.
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Post by garrett on Mar 18, 2012 10:17:34 GMT -5
said prunus was ok.they didn't care bout that. as i was /am heavy in prunus gonna roll wif that. as i see the aplle trees from around the world germinate my hope is renewed.smiles i'll be the crabapple baron of texas.lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 13:09:09 GMT -5
Hm, I think I hinted in past posts that I thought forage was a better deal for a hardscrabble orchardist, than shopping on-line was.
I am truely sorry to have been (in unforseen ways) correct.
Don't rule out your closest Chinese-Vietnamese market(s) they are likely to be unsympathetic to plant revenoorers and maybe helpful to crazy guys growing bonsai stock.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 18, 2012 13:15:00 GMT -5
Big G, at least you are allowed to have some fruit trees on your place, that's encouraging. Grow little crablets.....and plumettes. Now not only will you have Crabapple jelly, but you'll also be able to make plum jam, plum loaf, plum cake, prunes and prune rollups for the Kidlette.... See, there was Sunshine behind that big cloud
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 14:02:14 GMT -5
When fall comes around I'll share out some of what ever I get for quince.
Some will likely be mean enough to mangle even a guy with a shovel. No really.
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Post by garrett on Mar 25, 2012 17:41:35 GMT -5
lol look forward to it copp.smiles lace we is rolling with what we got.lol
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Post by tastyofhasty on May 6, 2012 16:38:28 GMT -5
Whaaat?
What kind of "agents" were they?? Did you demand ID's?
I wonder, can you grow citrus seeds in ... Louisiana? (I already know it's not worth it growing any citrus up here!) ... except a few cold hardy varieties that look like they're sour.
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Post by directsunlight on Jun 10, 2012 0:29:02 GMT -5
Based on what I've heard, lemon trees are not a pleasant addition to the landscape. The big thorns make where they're planted a place to be avoided by children or pets. If this were a political forum, it'd be an interesting discussion.
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Post by LinFL on Jun 10, 2012 22:29:04 GMT -5
Well, yeah - you don't want to plant any kind of thorny citrus up against the kids' swingset. The kiddies figure out pretty quick not to climb in them, too. You definitely have to plan where you plant citrus, so the thorns are only a problem when you need to pick the fruit. When you need to work in or around the tree, you can snap or cut off the thorns that are in your way - they won't grow back. (New growth may have new thorns, of course.) The good news is that many citrus get less thorny as they get older - for example, mature Meyer lemons are often thornless or nearly thornless. It's also helpful to keep the area under the tree cleared and mulched so you don't have to get under there with a mower or weed whacker every week. It's all a matter of preference, but to me an attractive evergreen tree that puts out fragrant white blossoms in spring and makes dozens or hundreds of delicious fruit is worth a few thorns.
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Post by directsunlight on Jun 10, 2012 22:36:05 GMT -5
Well, yeah - you don't want to plant any kind of thorny citrus up against the kids' swingset. The kiddies figure out pretty quick not to climb in them, too. You definitely have to plan where you plant citrus, so the thorns are only a problem when you need to pick the fruit. When you need to work in or around the tree, you can snap or cut off the thorns that are in your way - they won't grow back. (New growth may have new thorns, of course.) The good news is that many citrus get less thorny as they get older - for example, mature Meyer lemons are often thornless or nearly thornless. It's also helpful to keep the area under the tree cleared and mulched so you don't have to get under there with a mower or weed whacker every week. It's all a matter of preference, but to me an attractive evergreen tree that puts out fragrant white blossoms in spring and makes dozens or hundreds of delicious fruit is worth a few thorns. I would think it's how they are grafted too, at least for the lower trunk. My sister-in-law planted a lemon tree that had huge thorns. It was right in the yard where my nephew played. Am glad to hear they aren't all that way.
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Post by LinFL on Jun 11, 2012 0:16:33 GMT -5
A lemon tree with tons of thorns was probably a Lisbon or Eureka lemon. Those tend to be wicked, especially the Lisbon.
You're spot on about the graft, too. The rootstocks citrus growers use are thorny as all get out. Normally the graft junction is pretty close to the ground, so no problem. Nurseries will usually prune the thorns off the aboveground portion of the rootstock before selling the tree, too. But if you get suckers coming out from below the graft union, they will have wicked thorns (and produce hard, sour fruit). You'll want to cut them off as soon as you notice them.
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Post by garrett on Jun 11, 2012 11:58:50 GMT -5
can't wait to see trees in a few years.does snipping thorns open wounds that could introduce pathogens?
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Post by LinFL on Jun 12, 2012 14:22:10 GMT -5
Nope, it's safe for the tree. Just don't damage the bark on the branch and it's fine.
You can also pinch the soft little thorns off new growth with your fingers. That way they never get big enough to hurt you.
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Post by directsunlight on Jun 13, 2012 22:46:00 GMT -5
Well, yeah - you don't want to plant any kind of thorny citrus up against the kids' swingset. The kiddies figure out pretty quick not to climb in them, too. You definitely have to plan where you plant citrus, so the thorns are only a problem when you need to pick the fruit. When you need to work in or around the tree, you can snap or cut off the thorns that are in your way - they won't grow back. (New growth may have new thorns, of course.) The good news is that many citrus get less thorny as they get older - for example, mature Meyer lemons are often thornless or nearly thornless. It's also helpful to keep the area under the tree cleared and mulched so you don't have to get under there with a mower or weed whacker every week. It's all a matter of preference, but to me an attractive evergreen tree that puts out fragrant white blossoms in spring and makes dozens or hundreds of delicious fruit is worth a few thorns. Yesterday I went to a coworker's house. He has a Meyer lemon tree growing in a 5 gallon bucket. Not a thorn to be seen on it. They can't survive the winters here, so it becomes a big houseplant for them come November. I don't know how large they get when planted out, but this was was about 4 feet tall, with several lemons a couple of inches long each.
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Post by LinFL on Jun 14, 2012 10:47:11 GMT -5
Meyers are good for container citrus, because they don't mind being kept small and can make quite a few fruit even in a small pot. Even if you plant it in the ground, I think it only gets to 10-15 feet.
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Post by garrett on Jun 15, 2012 10:10:06 GMT -5
might do myers next year.lol
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