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Post by bella on May 15, 2012 12:34:57 GMT -5
Posted this on another forum, but wondered what y'all think. I had a wisteria plant which I put in on the woods edge, knowing they can be invasive. It didn't make the winter this year, so I ordered another.
Now - if I plant this by the trellis in the flower garden, will I be sorry in years to come?? Do they spread underground, or will I be able to conrol it by trimming??
I want scented plants around the yard, but am not sure if this should be right *in* the yard.
I have wild butterfly plants on the woods edge, which can get invasive, but the scent in the evening is heavenly....and it's easy to keep the plant from spreading in the yard itself.
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Post by catgrass on May 15, 2012 12:44:10 GMT -5
I don't know what kind you have, I have heard that some are not as invasive as others. I don't know what we have here-but we call it "hysteria" cause it's everywhere. It spreads from the large seed pods, from cuttings and Underground runners. The vine from hell! Gives kudzu a run for its money (but I think kudzu wins). On the other hand, my BF loves it. I started a cutting for him about 10 years ago. It is trained in tree/shrub form and is just gorgeous when it blooms. Me & my next door neighbor have been trying to kill the one in my yard for 15 years, and it still pops up in different places in the yard.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on May 15, 2012 13:33:26 GMT -5
Neighbours across the road have one trained like a tree, it's gorgeous. And behind had it all along a 6 ft high fence. Too bad they only bloom for such a short time.
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Post by coffeebreak on May 15, 2012 16:00:32 GMT -5
Bella Wisteria are very nice but you will need to keep a watch on them or they will get outta hand this was the one that I had in my front yard That I cut down it was growing Into my Macadamia tree Charles
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Post by bella on May 15, 2012 17:08:37 GMT -5
Charles, that is absolutely beautiful!!!! What a shame to have to cut it down, but I understand that if it was that huge and invasive. This is the one I ordered, on a whim, and it says it's trained to grow in tree form. www.summerstonenursery.com/Product-Purple-Wisteria-Tree_3479.aspx But...I am thinking, how can that be. I am sure you have to train and/or trim it as it grows. Blue, I bet that is just gorgeous growing along the fence. Catgrass, omg, I hope this one isn't going to have me fighting it for years; lol I will have to find another for my trellis, perhaps. Will do some googling...... ;D
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Post by marielouise on May 15, 2012 19:10:53 GMT -5
I have 2, one in back and one in front--- I trim them after blooming and when their viney growth heads in a direction that I do not want it. Such as toward a tree. Both of mine are kept to a tree form rather than a climbing form , their seed pods are cut off as they come on before they ripen seed. I only save a few pods if someone asks for seed . Mine are planted out in the yard ---not in a bed cuz the roots can and will sprout new growth if they are cut or nicked while working around other plants. We simply mow the grass around the base of the one out front --one in the back has old fashioned daylillies under it. I keep any and all unwanted growth cut off. Charles ---to bad you have already cut that one down! All you needed to do was cut those vines off out of the tree then pulled them loose after they died --then trimmed unwanted growth every year after bloom and kept all vines cut out of the tree. This is last years picture of the front yard vine --- I can't find a more recent one. its grown some and finished blooming and been trimmed for this year--- and has a few new secondary blooms . I will take new pictures of both plants later today---its raining right now!!!Hooray---we appreciate all the rain!!!
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Post by coffeebreak on May 15, 2012 21:40:28 GMT -5
Bella beside the Purple wisteria they also have one that has snow white flowers
Charles
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Post by bella on May 15, 2012 22:19:09 GMT -5
marie, that is so pretty!! Mine looked so nice last year when it bloomed, and was climbing a large oak out by the road; I sure wish it hadn't died. Charles, a neighbor gave us seed last year that he said was from a pink wisteria. It never did come up, and we decided that it was probably the squirrels who dug it up, since they were digging in that area later on. Grrrrr...... I didn't know there were white ones; that will be my next thing to look for; lol
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 22:31:09 GMT -5
If you can collect free examples wisteria will train into trays (as bonsai), compound leaves not withstanding.
Its a pest here, just one step up from bittersweet or kudzu. I wouldn't plant it without a soil barrier or bonsai pot.
I'm sure its obvious I'm not a big fan. Bad me.
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Post by marielouise on May 16, 2012 0:24:22 GMT -5
Coppice, You are right --it is a pest when not handled /trimmed and kept in bounds. Its all over the woods here and I see it in town where it has smothered the trees . But then thats true of many other plants .
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Post by bella on May 16, 2012 13:58:07 GMT -5
I'm finding very few fans of wisteria vines..... ;D I'm guessing I'll plant it on it's own, and not on the garden trellis. marie, I was reading that the 'american' wisteria that grows wild has a smell like cat pee. Don't guess I'll attempt growing that, tho I haven't seen any here in the wild. Speaking of vines, I honestly at one time, was thinking of growing kudzu - for the medicinal value.....and it's pretty. After searching, I am guessing NOT. ;D
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Post by marielouise on May 16, 2012 14:05:36 GMT -5
Haha mine doesn't smell like cat pee! and I dug it from the woods long time ago. At one time I couldn't really afford to buy flowers so I did scrounge the woods and helped friends thin theirs . Maybe it depends on where they grow--like type of soil etc. But this I have could be escaped from someones yard rather than a native--- don't know....
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Post by vblack on May 16, 2012 16:11:02 GMT -5
My darling brought me a wisteria plant...well, it was a stick. I was like that stick ain't going to grow....sure enough did! I was so surprised. Have not planted it in the ground yet but I am glad you started this thread so I know where to put it!
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Post by bluelacedredhead on May 16, 2012 20:46:10 GMT -5
The Wisteria on our street does not smell like cat pee, but the Bradford Pear blossoms do, Blech!
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Post by w8n4dave on May 17, 2012 20:55:17 GMT -5
Bella Wisteria are very nice but you will need to keep a watch on them or they will get outta hand this was the one that I had in my front yard That I cut down it was growing Into my Macadamia tree Charles Beautiful!! We could never get ours to bloom.. It would grow wild and hubbs would cut it down and it would grow wild again .. No Blooms ever!!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 5:15:05 GMT -5
Like lilac Wendy, blooms come on second year wood. If you stump it every year, no flowers.
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Post by w8n4dave on May 18, 2012 9:06:07 GMT -5
See I knew he was cutting it short every year ... we have some coming up , from the ones we pulled out , I may trans plant it somewhere and see if I cannot get it to grow... Now do they like acid ground or???
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Post by catgrass on May 18, 2012 12:28:45 GMT -5
If you've had your wisteria for several years and it has not bloomed-root prune it. Just go around it in a circle at the edge of it's drip line with a shovel-get some fertilizer in those cuts, and hopefully it will bloom next season. Never had a problem with them not blooming here...and there...and everywhere!
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Post by marielouise on May 18, 2012 17:09:06 GMT -5
Coppice is right---need to let some of it grow just keep it trimmed not cut back to stump or to ground .
I not had any problems with them not blooming even tho I have been known to cut way back --but not to the ground.
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Post by w8n4dave on May 18, 2012 22:32:51 GMT -5
hubbs did not cut it to the ground he just trimmed it in the spring and fall ... I was telling him to trimm it in the fall and not the spring but .... Pffttt oh well We have some coming up maby we can plant it somewhere so I can trim it .. Thanks e1
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Post by marielouise on May 20, 2012 4:57:44 GMT -5
I trim AFTER blooming ! But now I want mine to maintain a tree or bush shape not a trellis type. And I have trees nearby so those extra long runners reaching toward the trees I trim off. also I cut off the bean pods before they turn brown cuz them seed are very viable!!!! My grandkids like cutting them off to play with cuz pods are fuzzy when green..
Yeah they are easy to entertain!!!
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Post by w8n4dave on May 20, 2012 22:02:31 GMT -5
I think I read the trimming after blooming Marie ... Hubbs would NOT listen to me he went out there and trimmed in the spring in the summer in the fall ... Pfffffttttt !
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Post by marielouise on May 20, 2012 22:31:47 GMT -5
Men!
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Post by LinFL on May 25, 2012 9:09:37 GMT -5
They are beautiful trained into trees. Down here, you have to watch them close, though. They'll reach clear across the yard to find a tree or house to smother if you turn your back for a few minutes. (Well, okay...a couple of weeks.)
I've never heard of wisteria that smells like cat pee before, though. All the ones growing around here are very fragrant, with sweetly-scented flowers. If only they bloomed more than once a year!
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Post by w8n4dave on May 25, 2012 10:55:27 GMT -5
That would be amazing if we could get Wisteria , some of the other Awesome bushes to at least flower thru the spring or thru the summer lol but most only have blooms for about a week then they are gone.. Ohhh well thats why I have other bushes that bloom at different times So we have color all thru the year well except winter Pffttt!! But out Blue spruces shur keep it green enuf
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Post by coffeebreak on May 27, 2012 15:19:26 GMT -5
Wow Bella I forgot about this thread this is what the White Wisteria look like I also had this one as well in my Front yard Charles
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Post by bella on May 27, 2012 15:27:41 GMT -5
Wow. That is just gorgeous, Charles. I'd never seen a white one; didn't know there was such a thing. Gonna have to look for one of those now.
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Post by LinFL on May 27, 2012 16:08:21 GMT -5
There are also pink ones. I see them (and the white ones) occasionally. Probably 90% or more of the ones around here are the purple, though.
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