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Post by garrett on Jul 13, 2012 11:08:02 GMT -5
ya'll think in zone 9a i would have a shot? i saw some bird of paradise..plumeria and others last night by accident online...lol was looking for tree stuff.smiles my they am pretty. i am rolling the dice with trees.but once established i feel are fairly hearty. plants?i dunno.could they make it here? grow em as an annual? pondering hard here. ;D ;D
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Post by LinFL on Jul 13, 2012 13:10:24 GMT -5
Plumeria is probably going to croak on you if you plant it outside - it's not frost-hardy. If you have the wherewithal to cover and heat it (Christmas lights or something) so that it never ever gets below 35 degrees, it might make it. But if you have a warm spell and it comes out of dormancy, it can start taking damage at temps well above freezing. The other option is to keep it cool, dry and dark all winter, so that it stays dormant even during warm spells. If you keep it potted, that's easily accomplished. Reduce watering and let it go dormant outside when temps start to cool in your area. When nighttime temps drop into the 30s, bring the pot in to a cool dark place. Just make sure that your overwintering spot never drops below freezing. Give very little to no water. When it warms up in spring, resume watering and re-acclimate it to the sun. I've done it in my unheated garage. Some other tropical/subtropical plants can be overwintered this way, too. Of course, if you have a sunny South-facing window in the house, you can overwinter the plumeria in an active growth state. (I grew a pineapple from a top once, and overwintered it that way. Pineapple is a big, seriously spiny plant to have beside your bedroom window. I learned to be careful getting up in the morning! ) Bird of paradise, at least the big white type, might be okay outside. My sister has maintained one outside here for several years. I don't know how much freeze protection she gives it. If you're going to try any plant that's "iffy" for cold-hardiness, try to plant it in a protected microclimate. It needs to be sheltered from winter winds, not at the bottom of a slope (cold air pools in low spots), and it's even better if you have re-radiated heat at night. In front of a south-facing brick, masonry or stone wall is ideal.
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Post by LinFL on Jul 13, 2012 13:12:15 GMT -5
Oh, and I agree that plumeria is just gorgeous - and the smell is heavenly. I definitely get jealous when the S. Florida gardeners I know post pictures of their plumeria trees in bloom.
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Post by directsunlight on Jul 13, 2012 13:22:21 GMT -5
We tried in TN growing a pineapple from the top. The light coming through from outside wasn't enough to keep it going. It was my free experiment in growing tropical fruit. I tried growing cassabanana one time. Ironically, the sun killed it when I put it outside; I had it in a west facing window and it weakened when put outside. I planted it in the garden & it bought it. Since then I've been willing to go a bit eccentric (salsify, spaghetti squash, Black dakota corn) but am done with exotics until I get better at it. I like reading about others trying that stuff though. Best of luck!
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Post by coffeebreak on Jul 13, 2012 13:26:26 GMT -5
Red I live in Zone 10 This is the Plumeria that I have they get big and they will die back in the Winter and in the Winter my area can get down to the high 20s and the plant had survive here for many years and this is the Bird of Paradise that I have Red if are in Zone 9 you can grow Cinnamon trees they will grow and Survive in southern California and our Local nursery sell them
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Post by garrett on Jul 14, 2012 11:45:30 GMT -5
thanks for all the input my friends. loving it.smiles
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Post by catgrass on Jul 31, 2012 9:38:59 GMT -5
I am in zone 9A. I have both plumeria and bird of paradise. The Bird has been in a large pot that the roots have grown through the bottom of and has been outside for 5+ years now.It is on the south side of my house and I have never brought it in during the winter (because I can't!), and it does fine. I cover it during 35 degree weather or cooler. I see them planted in the ground all over town, here, and they will survive winters if not too harsh. I have two large plumerias that are in very large pots. I bring them in the garage when the night temps get in the low 40's. Don't water them again until spring when I put them out. I do know that some are in the ground around town, here, but they are planted in sheltered, southern facing spots, and wrapped heavily in cold weather.
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