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Post by LinFL on Jun 12, 2013 1:27:02 GMT -5
Good luck! Sounds like a challenging - but fun - project.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 18:19:05 GMT -5
I'm continuing on with top prune and repot on trees at wisteria. Todays candidate(s) were a comptonia (false pot plant) and a fox grape. We've only got a 27 days to go to hit the fourty-days of rain mark.
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Post by garrett on Jul 7, 2013 20:02:54 GMT -5
get em copp...i been seeing new fodder on the curbs here to try to plant......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 3:32:09 GMT -5
Your still doing the heavy lifting of gettiing a landscape plantation growing. This too shall pass. Next will come (he says) tree babies as bonsai...
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Post by coffeebreak on Jul 16, 2013 12:37:21 GMT -5
Tuesday July the 16th Got my 1st flower to open on my Tea plant Camellia Sinensis and the plant is getting ready to break out in full Bloom don't know if I will get Seeds or not If I do I will make them available Charles
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 19:16:30 GMT -5
These southern guys sure get pretty shrubs (least I think a camelia is a shrub).
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Post by coffeebreak on Jul 17, 2013 4:17:07 GMT -5
Big different most people don't grow the tea variety they grow camellia japonica For the flowers
Charles
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 5:48:34 GMT -5
I'm still not sure where Garret wants to drive his orchard to. Heck its not clear to me Garret knows where he wants to grow with his orchard.
So far it looks like he's on landscape sized stuff he can chew on.
My latest collection of to-become landscape sized stuff is all headed for the Sapling-In-Chief's yard. None should remain here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 16:43:42 GMT -5
I am starting my road-side seed stalking. Red-leaf plum. Very pretty tree, no fruit-set this year. Red-leaf crab (AKA parking lot), good fruit set I'll pick these as fall runs in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 12:27:41 GMT -5
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Post by coffeebreak on Oct 2, 2013 12:35:58 GMT -5
This is very Odd Wednesday October the 2nd all year One of my Almond Tree did not make any Flowers now the Fall is here it coming to life With them don't know what to think about that ? or if they will have Time to make ? but I'm about to find out.. Charles
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2013 18:42:29 GMT -5
Thats nuts
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Post by garrett on Oct 18, 2013 19:50:46 GMT -5
rotfl...............
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Post by LinFL on Oct 19, 2013 14:36:12 GMT -5
LOL, Cop!
Seriously, my apple trees (especially Dorsett Golden) sometimes bloom out of season. I have yet to get a mature fruit out of those blooms, but that may be in part because it's usually just a few blooms at a time, so pollination is poor.
I've read that out-of-season blooming is usually due to weather or other stress. In fact, that tree put out a few clusters of blooms just a few weeks ago. Since it was only a few clusters, it should not interfere with spring bloom.
I am just hoping we get a consistent winter once it starts. Last year's mild January and early February followed by six weeks of cold completely messed up spring bloom for all of my deciduous fruit trees and I only got few apples and no peaches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 15:59:59 GMT -5
Yah Lin I'm thinking you are on the southern frontier for apple. So some greener years your bloom could well be all turned around.
"Sigh" many of the yankee nurseries and cultivars they have, I dunno if they'll fly this south of Yankee-land..
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Post by LinFL on Oct 20, 2013 10:09:23 GMT -5
There are people who grow apples hundreds of miles south of me - I'm in the north part of the state, and people all the way through central Florida can grow apples. It's just that the list of cultivars that have a chance of producing good apples gets shorter the farther south you go.
Mostly that short list of cultivars is due to chill hours, but even some of the low-chill varieties that do well in So. Cal and the desert southwest do not perform here in our humid summers and warm nights. Either they die to disease, or the fruit quality is poor.
Depending on the year, I can get <400 or as many as 1000 chill hours. 500-650 is the usual range. The apples I currently have at fruiting size require between 150 and 300 chill hours. My peach is rated at 300 hours.
However, the last two years we have had weird winters with seasonable December weather followed by unusually warm January weather. The warm January basically "undid" the earlier chill hours in 2012, so we had a poor bloom season.
Last year was even worse because we had winter in late February and March - the average temperature for March was actually lower than the average temperature in January this year! I had bud swell in early February and then intermittent frosts through the last week of March. Many blooms never opened, and some of the others opened damaged or opened in cold, cloudy, windy conditions that kept the the bees in their hives. (I know there are bees nearby, because when the orange tree bloomed in late March and April, it was covered with bees for weeks.)
So I actually get enough chill for the fruits I grow in nearly all years - I just need a "normal" winter with the chill hours concentrated around January.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 10:38:54 GMT -5
Some of the best heritage apples grow better in zone 4... But I'll take reccomendations if you've got a fresh perspective. I'm in a bit of a rut.
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Post by garrett on Nov 6, 2013 0:53:04 GMT -5
copp I still say start some simmons from seeds or wild apples from seeds. smiles
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 5:53:33 GMT -5
I have a zip lock of gooey persimmon seed going to Robin from My daughters new digs.
The six dollar question will be do the sassafras I collected off of her place wake up next spring?
If they do I will win bragging rights with some bonsai growers I know in a couple years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 15:25:46 GMT -5
Garret has offered me a local to him-oak. He's south enough that its an evergreen. the same oak here, however is deciduous.
How does he ship it when it dormant? This is sorta the reverse of my offering to Garret of an olive, which is a tender tree and never goes dormant.
His oak will have to ship to me around solstice, it'll be up to me to bring these forward till spring can catch up to them. IE next fall they will be able to go dormant. They are hearty enough to slip into my colder weather with the passage of the seasons.
Red should he choose to try olive at his Texican forrest, he's gonna have to keep them pruned to a size that he can throw a blanket over them during a cold snap.
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Post by LinFL on Nov 12, 2013 10:34:59 GMT -5
I thought olives were hardy enough to handle brief exposures to 10F when mature? Or maybe only the varieties sold for growing in North Florida are that hardy: www.justfruitsandexotics.com/Olives.htmOf course, when they are baby trees they will need protection from cold.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 10:58:41 GMT -5
Laura they only need a brief sheltered spring (cause they didn't get a Texican winter). Once the aubsequent winter draws near, they'll go into an Ohioan sleep.
Garret has a tougher row to hoe, his winter may be all above 32F, or it may not. He's going to have to protect Olive on cold nights forever.
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Post by coffeebreak on Nov 12, 2013 15:04:14 GMT -5
Tom that the same here where I live. Oak trees are evergreen they don't go to sleep but They will drop some of their leaves in the fall only to make new ones
Charles
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 18:16:41 GMT -5
Yea, long as I let winter sneak up on them they should be OK. They can probably stand a few weeks indoors till spring opens...
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Post by garrett on Nov 12, 2013 20:41:50 GMT -5
get er done.....
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Post by garrett on Nov 13, 2013 9:07:06 GMT -5
as far as a vision fer the orchard? rotfl........ well to get em to tree size first...lol at the moment I am interplanting garlic...onions ect in da supersoil ...... dropping rescue plants along the border of the orchard. I will interplant my hibiscus...bouganvillia ect......[if they make it from cuttings] the vision? an oasis of life....an area small enough...rich enough in water and organics to be able to maintain and keep alive. and enjoy.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 12:38:23 GMT -5
I try to be encouraging on Robin Marbles forum. I'm also a building a collection of top-wood for grafted apples. I'm using my daughter as the arboratum, and my back porch as the bench for cells. Almost none a this is going to field here in Albany.
Any way one of the N4Sers wants to grow out sumac as a mast tree? My scepticism aside; local to her growers are being a lot less than helpful.
First she's being told the name is shumate and that it is not a sumac (which it is).
This all reminds me rather of times years ago when I had Texicans be intentionally silly when describing "well done" on a steak.
I'm ok with being jobbed as a yankee, I'm less forgiving when its your own.
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