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Post by garrett on Dec 22, 2011 23:39:53 GMT -5
take it away copp.school is in session....smiles ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 8:54:31 GMT -5
Well, actually the point I was hoping to make, was there are more different legs on this than a centipede has. Not that my way is better.
To run off just a few. A Pick Your Own orchard. A subsistance orchard. Winery or distillery. A wholesale to the trade (you make trees other people sell). If just those ideas simmer in the back of your head. And a little sign at the end of the driveway is all that you make of it; it'll be little ventured, maybe something gained.
If I have the story right, Knott's Berry farm grew out of a mom who baked the fruit they couldn't sell into pies...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 14:52:29 GMT -5
I stopped even a cardboard sign at the end of the driveway for azalea and Bloodgood Japan maples. I always sold as many of those as I had, or were willing to part with.
Every time I upped the price, the next guy just paid...
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Post by garrett on Dec 24, 2011 1:42:31 GMT -5
ohhhhhhhhh yeah.any bonsai pics copp?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2011 9:01:37 GMT -5
I'm not that facile with photos. theres a link from NJT trees forum.
No photos exist of my old nursery.
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Post by garrett on Dec 25, 2011 2:44:03 GMT -5
do you do any inside?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2011 6:56:04 GMT -5
"indoor" bonsai is I'm afraid mostly a peddlars hustle. Oh there are trees that if grown far afield from its home range, needs wintertime protection in a heated greenhouse or indoors. And there are a few trees that their natural home range comes close to the oddy dry breezless space humans like. An' even those have some kinda rainy season humans probably wouldn't live in. No matter how well humans fiddle with supplimental light, and moisture trays, and a cool corner. That space is never better than marginal for trees. For instance most people won't live in a greenhouse--the people mildew I have one olea europa (true olive), One rhododendron indicum (Japanese azalea), four pithecelobium flexicaule (Texas ebony), and a christmas cactus indoors right now. All are under lights setting on a humidity tray, and are glowering (if not whimpering) awaiting spring as I write. Some year my youngest may return from Vietnam with his bride and they can have the olive I bought when I was notified of the marriage, The azalea and christmas cactus are plants I'm tree sitting for a friend. The Texas ebony are the only tender tree I'll probably keep, even though their home range is probably south of you Red. They are truely the smallest american legume and do the kinds of things I want to evoke from bonsai. Like: They are asymetrical, the leaves fold up at night, and they bloom. So they have both short term and long term "motion". I'm gonna go even off-er topic than normal. About 1860 the Tokugowa shogunate dragged Japan into the ninteenth century. This hatched an environment where japan had a new middle class, which needed needed, status stuff. In Japan that was a patch of 'garden' and at least something wild. A bonsai growing factory town quickly formed by the name of Omya. Omya made it living for many years making the busiest, squirmiest, most asymetrical trees it could. Texas ebony will eventualy elbow its way into Japanese heirarchy of bonsai, cause baby its the best. An' I likes them TX ebony even though they dream of dixie, and hate living under lights till April or May.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 0:02:01 GMT -5
Oops I forgot the Rosemary I got as a slip eight or ten years ago. Its bulked up some over the years. I done a half dozen airlayers off of it.
It too is langishing under lights in the dinning room leaning towards the window. Awaiting escape to outdoors come late April.
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Post by garrett on Dec 26, 2011 2:35:56 GMT -5
fascinating stuff copp.........smiles
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2011 11:22:39 GMT -5
My tv in my room near to my bed is not hooked up to cable (or dish) I only get three channels all from OSU, by antenna, one runs a fair amount of foreign language stuff. Included with it are a fair amount of other national news feeds. When its not Al-Jazeera bonsai stuff is a fairly regular news item, I suspect where ever three Chinamen congregate, one of them is sticking a twig into a pot and trying to make it grow.
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Post by garrett on Dec 26, 2011 14:00:43 GMT -5
grins we;ll see what the future holds.i gotta google them texas ebony....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 14:51:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I sound too preachy. But city folk sometimes seek country folk to find there stuff.
They are never quite sure (or trusting) of where fertilize comes from.
Arbor science is definately nestled too close to the compost pile for some a those flatlanders.
I have been belaboring my eldest to do her pottery thing and add some holes in the bottom of the pot, for idiots like me who keep sticking the woods we no longer can walk in, into pots. At least once last summer she had a man check every one of her pots bottoms (for vent holes). I have only been telling her for the past several years 800 million Chinamen can't all be wrong.
Deep southern trees i would not spend a nickle on to grow, but I'd want a specimen or three of in a pot handy for sale to an urbanite are:
Bald cypress, Texas ebony, acacia, any red leaf japan maple, any small leaved azalea. They'll need to go in a pot, you won't make a sale with one growing inna milk jug.
All of this list I would forage and scrounge free material for. Growing the 'eye' for volunteer japan maple seedlings nestled under their parent; is just plain a good survival skill, even if you never pick a single one.
Yes, you can have some of my purple berry's, they'll probably keep us both alive...
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Post by garrett on Dec 29, 2011 15:15:51 GMT -5
grins i'll get ta scroungin.
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Post by garrett on Dec 30, 2011 14:35:53 GMT -5
copp can you enlighten us on purple berries?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 2:38:31 GMT -5
Haw! Thats either an old CSNY or Jefferson Starship lyric. I disremember which.
It'll do as a fair epigram of why I wanna share out both my success & flops in the back yard.
I've been far afield, looking for information on Woo's rootcrops. Some of our countrymen are working themselves up into a froth. I simply cannot sustain that degree of angry. And will find ways to let off my reservations, when I have been too dosed with militarism. Sorry you got sprayed too.
I lived only a few miles from the last Shaker colony. Those good devout and chaste women kept a kitchen garden, that was routinely stolen from by their neighbors, as much to do their christian duty, as it was to feed themselves.
I have to wonder out loud if our modern survivalist militants will be able to survive the apocolypse they so ardently seek, as those few old women did.
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Post by garrett on Jan 5, 2012 0:22:34 GMT -5
how many years you been doing bonsai copp?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 13:53:51 GMT -5
I started, well stumbled really into bonsai as a way to care for a multitude of bloodgood Japan maple seedlings that sprang up in a lawn I was caring for. I just couldn't chop 'em all up with a lawnmower. Oh about '94 or 5.
I killed the first 200 or so I took up out of the lawn. Which made me so mad I started reading up on how people kept trees in pots.
One thing led to another. Them sapling bloodgoods started living. Other people offered me trees... before I knew it I was a tree hugging Dr Doolittle...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 14:03:34 GMT -5
I'm feeling semi-perky today, the sun is shining, its nearly forty degrees outside, so its time to go to work.
My old plug of peat moss it still about half frozen, but some scooped so I've a bucket indoors with, one (gallon) scoop of peat, one scoop of sand and a handful of crushed oyster shell and an handful of pearlite thawing to be mixed up and go in a terrarium made of to conjoined peanut better jars.
Next I'll take last years twigs of some bald cypress I have in pots ans treat the cut ends with rooting hormone. they'll go in the terrarium and on the bench with tender trees inside to see if any will strike roots.
Mostly I expect these to go to a local campground in wetland areas, but they have become bonsai candidates in past years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 10:50:01 GMT -5
The bald cypress cuttings are all leafy (needle-ey?), I aint bold enough, or desparate enough to open up the little terrarium those twigs are in, to see if they have struck roots--yet.
Yesterday I pulled up my first crab apple up out of its winter bunk, and root pruned it and replaced about 50% of the soil.
Today between the rain drops I root pruned and repotted two Texas ebony. Now these southern trees have always lived in a pot, and they aint that old, so I can shake out just about all the soil in their pots.
Cute little buggers they are...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 10:59:58 GMT -5
I sent my eldest sapling off with a few example pots. She likes fiddling with ceramics and we are near to ground zero here for what was once the american ceramic trade.
Seems she's willing finally after only four or five years of my taunting to make a few bonsai pots. perhaps she'll actually sell a few and may then make it a habbit...
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Post by garrett on Feb 24, 2012 12:53:04 GMT -5
I sent my eldest sapling off with a few example pots. She likes fiddling with ceramics and we are near to ground zero here for what was once the american ceramic trade. Seems she's willing finally after only four or five years of my taunting to make a few bonsai pots. perhaps she'll actually sell a few and may then make it a habbit... goood luck to kiddo.smiles maybe a few pics? hope she does well and has fun doing it.smiles
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 13:31:46 GMT -5
I'm expecting something de-constructed. Based on earlier work of hers. If she's clever she'll build something steam-punk.
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Post by garrett on Feb 24, 2012 16:49:52 GMT -5
smiles art is in the eye copp?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 21:22:21 GMT -5
I expect there are (or have been) fewer than a dozen ceramic workers who make (or made) bonsai pots here USAin. 1., its fairly new in the USAin. 2., Needs to be a conjunction between two pretty disparate hobbys. IE both the pottery guy has to have his-her feathers stroked, and the tree guy as well.
The aesthetic of bonsai pots is pretty well established in the two biggest centers that make them. A Japanese potter is gonna make one with matt surface and earth tones. A Chinese potter is gonna put a shiny glaze on it and colors that would melt an ordinary persons retina.
I'm mildly curious what Sunshine will come up with.
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Post by garrett on Feb 26, 2012 18:43:58 GMT -5
maybe she'll teach us how to make pots? hint hint......grins
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 10:08:43 GMT -5
Age
If you wander around the world of bonsai, how "old" a particular tree is, is very often closer to swamp gas than it has anything to do with that particular tree.
How well a tree has been grown out and the time between its last major coppicing and its display can be determined, but the good craftsman will tout how old a tree is, does that last.
The merchant who puffs the age of his-her tree first, is often the same peddler who is selling you an indoor tree.
None of my current crop of trees is over 20 years old. With bonsai there isn't a fully trained tree in one persons lifetime.
It seems based on places where bonsai have been trained for a very long time, that old age overtakes trees too.
There aint no 2000 year old bonsai. Even if it might be possible to keep a bristlecone pine alive that long.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 14:31:28 GMT -5
Repotted a Texas Ebony and my lone Rosemary today.
The Rosemary got an upsized pot. The Tx Ebony is still a shrimpy thing, its got 4 or 5 more years before it'll need a bigger pot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 10:05:39 GMT -5
Repotted two crab apples today, an' my sole Olive. The Olea europa got an upsized pot he's been living in the last one for six or seven years, an' even with some root pruning it was time to go big(er). Tender trees will spend today till suppertime outdoors on the porch rail. Purple berries The viburnum family of shrubs, bushes, and understory trees, is bigger than most people think. It is very likely growing somewhere near Garret is a huckleberry, or a sparkle berry, or a rabbit eye. All of 'em to my non-botanist eye sure look like viburnum kin. Most of them have some potential as bonsai candidates. An' best of all, they be free!
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Post by garrett on Mar 11, 2012 0:16:47 GMT -5
get er done.smiles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 22:40:02 GMT -5
I had a family member insist if I keep on coppicing the tops of trees, and, root pruning them, I will end up with just a couple leaves growing directly out of a few wisps of roots...
I'm pretty sure my pruning is getting a bad (and undeserved) rap.
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