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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 11:07:21 GMT -5
Sacrifice branch, and or Sap drawer No a sap drawer isn't where you hide your d**ned idiot brother. It is how growers increase the taper (read size of the base) of a tree. Both are easy to do, and artfully miss-leading. The sap "draw-er" is a terminal bud of a lower branch that will in time be cut off (sacrificed).
When you leave this sort of terminal bud on the branch grows longer (and fatter) quicker, than if you take it off to make the branch ramify.
When you take off that terminal bud the branch grows shorter and makes more branches (making it ramify).
For right now Red wants his tree babies to grow tall and become deer proof. He should leave on every terminal bud he can.
Me, I want hobbit tall trees, mostly I should be taking off terminal buds...
The fact that I am lazy and want to do my work sitting on my tochis has nothing what ever to do with my pruning...
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Post by garrett on Jan 8, 2013 20:48:10 GMT -5
deer proof....sighs....lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 9:00:58 GMT -5
A nice tall bench on the back porch in sight of the orchard, might be just the ticket to sight in 'old Betsy'...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 12:00:49 GMT -5
CO-2 Just in case you thought you were over tinkering with your trees, I just left a bonsai forum where a fig grower (as in, indoors) is supplementing his trees carbon-dioxide making what amounts to hootch alongside his fig trees in their greenhouse.
Better be some darned good CO-2, for all the money he's throwing at this.
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Post by LinFL on Jan 18, 2013 22:44:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 9:04:59 GMT -5
No, no, no Fatalii does a great job of coppicing peppers. His progressions have made it to just about every bonsai site.
A purist will tell ya they are accent plants. I'll tell ya they're great.
Because peppers are a tender plant here on the appalachia, I don't grows 'em cause I don't have the room to bring them indoors.
Near as we can tell (and things get downright sketchy before about 1860) bonsai for most of its history was a commissioned art form, meaning poor folk collected and trained them. And rich people displayed them.
It was only really post WW-II that that kinda upstairs-downstairs deal started breaking down.
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Post by LinFL on Jan 19, 2013 12:39:31 GMT -5
Interesting. I wasn't aware of it before, but the "upstairs-downstairs deal" makes sense. Well-trained bonsai really is a work of art, and commissioned art of all kinds has broken down over the last several decades.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 13:18:08 GMT -5
Setting aside the hair-splitting of are very tiny pepper plants bonsai, or accent plants, Fatallii does a heck of a nice job with the plants he has worked on.
Some of the best examples of his that I have seen are bird peppers, and mighty spicy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:43:40 GMT -5
Inorganic spraysI know some growers who routinely spray the dickens out of their trees, they object at the sight of the first visiting ant. I'll routinely use things like insecticidal soap and will if pressed used Sevin© for things that nothing else will touch. the former (and BT) pass organic muster, Sevin© don't. Mostly bonsai ain't big enough to get noticed by tree-pests. Alas peach borer doesn't need glasses...
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Post by garrett on Jan 27, 2013 16:34:27 GMT -5
grow em high grows em well....smiles
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 15:42:38 GMT -5
Osage oranges are broken up and sown on germinating pans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 14:09:13 GMT -5
Garret did round-up in the fall and sent out a buncha black walnuts. Tell him he dida good job. Spring remodels will be generating their spring dumpster fill soon.
If you have a chipper any of this brush can get ground up.
If you don't have a chipper now (or soon) is the time to shop at the curb for material for bonsai training. It will show up in staggering amounts. Very often this is as feast-or-famine as leaf rustling.
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Post by garrett on Feb 27, 2013 10:22:33 GMT -5
i'll be out trolling...lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 9:22:32 GMT -5
Tree babies should go out in the sun briefly today.
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Post by garrett on Mar 22, 2013 23:58:53 GMT -5
hey copp ? youse needs any baby pinoaks? grins.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 8:42:08 GMT -5
Got any Latin to go with "pinoaks"?
I'm off googling as I type.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 9:00:32 GMT -5
hey copp ? youse needs any baby pinoaks? grins..... This late in the year, I'm thinkin' you have just germinated seedlings. its already too late to ship those. So if you still have some in pans come fall, I'll take a few then. Now is a death sentence for oak babies. What I think you've got is "Quercus palustrus", or (as you note) "pin" oak, its a tough red-oak that got used to 'pin' timber frame buildings together. It is desirable to bonsai guys like me cause: 1. its a bottom land tree, so wet soil is less of an issue (bald cypress does well as bonsai for the same reasons). 2. its got nice smaller leaves (small leaves tend to beget smaller-er leaves with leaf pinching). 3. It aught to live (in human terms) forever. 4. Pin oaks home range includes Ohio. So yes thank you, if you have any dormant ones in the fall, I'm probably interested. Don't be impatient, we gotta do things to tree time, not people time. Do you want me to send you more local Texican's who might be able to pick up?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 12:57:56 GMT -5
Hows it lookin'?
Next time you are wandering around a good bonsai exhibit (like the one at the national arboretum in DC). Look at the trees and find that place they look best to you.
I am positing that Japanese styled trees have a "best viewed" closer than Chinese trees do. Actually about half the distance...
What I'm selling probably isn't science, but its one I've found myself pacing off more than a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 13:04:00 GMT -5
Its sixty degrees and breezy outdoors. I've been sitting on my asterisk in front of the wheelbarrow repotting the tender trees. in the sun.
Two are plain-jane english ivy, either or both were due to go to Bunny's lighted box of wonders. Unfortunately they have survived her passing. So I don't really have a recipient for them.
Two are Texas Ebony, a thorny bush with a purple bloom and the tiniest legume-style compound leaf.
I've more tender trees to repot and all my hearty trees are still in bed in their winter quarters.
I scraped a white-out dot off of one of the tender trees(pot). Those white-out dots designated the trees that I intended taking with me from my old orchard.
The number of trees I could neither give away or sell still pokes me in the chest.
Spring, may have finally sprung.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 8:54:30 GMT -5
Only a couple more tender trees to repot (and top prune). Then its onto hearty trees. Still nothin' peeking out of germinating pans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 12:28:40 GMT -5
Benches benches benches.
One of 'those things' that tree hugging bonsai guys do is pose their trees in--at specific hights. if sort of goes with the focal length that better displays herd people watching trees do.
Some trees can get by with low benches, but most of the better ones are near to (or a bit taller than) waist high.
The smaller benches I brought with me from NH have served well enough. Its time to lever them up some so I can see the result of my chopping.
Got me some pressure treated 5/4 and posts an' stuff.
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Post by garrett on Apr 19, 2013 19:55:50 GMT -5
smiles don't pay no attention to what ''they say'' copp follow yer heart.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 7:47:43 GMT -5
*Snicker* I aint worrying about people talking about bonsai benches. Now if I was clever I'd set out a "mark" on pavement where proper viewing distance was.
And then peek to see who hit their marks unknowing...
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Post by garrett on Aug 8, 2013 16:44:51 GMT -5
dem walnuts ever sprout copp?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 7:10:47 GMT -5
Not a single one for me, some did for two other growers (one being in Maine).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 11:59:03 GMT -5
Whats it worth?I've been saying for a longish time that the creator of bonsai probably can't get rich doin' it. Shopping as I have done of late on the Internet, maybe even old established nurseries in Omya (Japan) ain't gettin' rich training bonsai. Still from time to time stories like the one linked crop up that list a very long (in american terms) provenance. Is this tree fabulously rare and valuable? It may appear be, to uninvolved civilians. I expect less so if its centenary pedigree proves true. This should prove to be an interesting winters read for a bored gardener. www.bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?12294-Shimpaku-juniper-question
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 5:21:51 GMT -5
It takes how long?
I send off to the Sapling-In-Chief's seedling some wide-mouth pots and a buss pan fulla dirt for him to start some acorns in.
He says he wants to grow them oak babies into bonsai. I warned him he was going to be seventeen before they would be big enough to train...
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Post by garrett on Oct 18, 2013 19:51:43 GMT -5
roll on bonsaiteers........smiles
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 6:49:01 GMT -5
I teased apart this springs Osarc Orange seed planting. I kept 19 in cells. I haven't divided pawpaw yet.
Do you have a hankering for any of these Red?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 14:07:10 GMT -5
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