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Post by garrett on Aug 23, 2011 18:06:21 GMT -5
fire away ya'lls................
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Post by directsunlight on Aug 23, 2011 22:35:25 GMT -5
Any thoughts as to the best fruit trees to try in the Southern plains? I've heard all kinds of different answers, but I want to hear what you knowledgable people think
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Post by garrett on Aug 23, 2011 23:30:54 GMT -5
Any thoughts as to the best fruit trees to try in the Southern plains? I've heard all kinds of different answers, but I want to hear what you knowledgable people think hoping others will weigh in ds.a tree pro i aint.
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Post by izzy on Aug 24, 2011 12:14:29 GMT -5
DS, Take a look at this link. I am using these to get started again w/ fruit trees. I really really want to move up to NE Texas for the four season climate - at least that's as far north as I'm willing to move because I'm a wuss when it comes to cold. For Fruit maps here: aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/extension/fruitgarden/figure2.html
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Post by w8n4dave on Aug 24, 2011 21:37:40 GMT -5
Well up north mi. we have the Crab apple trees and mine is loaded!! I want to know what I can do with these crab apples! Can someone help me???
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Post by directsunlight on Aug 25, 2011 23:03:30 GMT -5
DS, Take a look at this link. I am using these to get started again w/ fruit trees. I really really want to move up to NE Texas for the four season climate - at least that's as far north as I'm willing to move because I'm a wuss when it comes to cold. For Fruit maps here: aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/extension/fruitgarden/figure2.htmlThanks for the chart. I don't know if Texas is unique, but I've heard several times that unless you spray with chemicals just about every month, bugs will carry off most of the fruit trees. Here what the books tell me and what individuals tell me they have experienced, don't match at all.
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Post by garrett on Aug 26, 2011 1:21:43 GMT -5
wendy can you ferment them?
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Post by noobgahdnuh on Aug 26, 2011 11:39:40 GMT -5
so I live in stone-fruit/citrus/nut tree capital of the world and my fruit trees.... well, they suck. I dont know what I'm doing wrong but it could have something to do with the fact that I am organic and the neighboring orange grove is NOT! so I get alllll their scale, bugs etc.... I might try some dwarf trees this year in large containers... any advice on that?
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Post by izzy on Aug 26, 2011 13:29:27 GMT -5
Wendy,
When I was young, my grandma, who was a German "old-world" immigrant, served spiced crab apples with roasted meats at every Sunday dinner right after church. They were delish!! Canned in a light suryp, spiced with cinnamon and cloves. Prolly had red food coloring to make them purty. Sorry, don't have a recipe, just fond memories. Crab apple trees are especially useful as a pollinator for other apple trees.
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Post by izzy on Aug 26, 2011 13:31:01 GMT -5
noobgahdnuh & DS,
I also want to raise fruit trees w/o the harmful and destructive chemicals. I've had decent short term luck here in S. Texas w/ apples & pears. Of course, citrus, figs, and avacados generally grow well - until we have a string of hard freezes that can set them back. Peaches arer a bear.
I want so much more, though, and will move as soon as I can work it out so that I can grow much more. I want a small orchard. In the meantime, I've been reading up a lot on growing fruit naturally. I don't have the experience yet, but here's a little of what I'm learning: whether you are growing natural or conventional, in most cases , you will need to spray. The key is to begin early, and spray often. For organic practices, neem oil will control codling moths, scale, and more if begun before bud break. Light weekly sprayings beginning before spring arrives, and continuing thru the spring is said to be effective. When I have more time, I'll look for some online resources for you.
Haven't read up on citrus, but I've managed to get a lemon tree from seed, now in it's 4th year, producing well. Planted it in a friends yard. She's a nurse, and (sorry Im not good w/medical terms so my description is poor) she feeds the tree the remains left in the bags of food that is given by iv to patients. She says they have to remove the feeding tube at a certain time, and she takes that left-over nutrient, watered down, and hangs the iv bag in the tree with the tube in the ground. I also started 2 mango trees for her which she "feeds", and they are all doing extremely well with no other special care.
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Post by garrett on Aug 26, 2011 16:09:43 GMT -5
hmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...coul be lr......d5..........or bannana bag......or parenteral nutrition....interesting
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Post by noobgahdnuh on Aug 26, 2011 17:53:04 GMT -5
she feeds the tree the remains left in the bags of food that is given by iv to patients. She says they have to remove the feeding tube at a certain time, and she takes that left-over nutrient, watered down, and hangs the iv bag in the tree with the tube in the ground. holy crap! do you know how much my friends would tease me even MORE if they came over and saw that?!
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Aug 26, 2011 21:04:14 GMT -5
she feeds the tree the remains left in the bags of food that is given by iv to patients. She says they have to remove the feeding tube at a certain time, and she takes that left-over nutrient, watered down, and hangs the iv bag in the tree with the tube in the ground. holy crap! do you know how much my friends would tease me even MORE if they came over and saw that?! Wait till you ask male visitors to urinate on the compost pile!
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Post by garrett on Aug 27, 2011 1:44:31 GMT -5
holy crap! do you know how much my friends would tease me even MORE if they came over and saw that?! Wait till you ask male visitors to urinate on the compost pile! don't fergit the manure.lol
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Post by tastyofhasty on Aug 30, 2011 10:30:15 GMT -5
Take a look at this list of disease resistant fruit trees: www.acnursery.com/acn_resistant.phpNO stone fruits. That narrows it down to ... apples ... and pears. Where I'm at, I've about decided to chop down all my stone fruits except bush cherries and one Manchurian apricot tree, (and maybe one small plum I can keep spraying until it develops gooey, icky fruit and then I'll chop IT down, too). Peach borers, can't get rid of 'em. We have major fireblight here, too. Figs and jujubes seem to be immune to pests generally, too. But SOMEthing (and it may be two-legged) got most of my unripe green jujubes just a few days ago, about the time the last of my pears "evaporated, disappeared, vanished" from the top of my pear tree. Anyway, pears are the most hassle-free fruit, from what I've read.
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Post by mythkat on Aug 30, 2011 18:09:45 GMT -5
Hi, If you make jams or jellies you can use crabapples for the pectin to set the syrup. They are very high in pectin Kathy
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Aug 30, 2011 18:12:08 GMT -5
Blueberries are nice if you have the right soil and weather. I've grown grapes and scuponones also.
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Post by garrett on Aug 31, 2011 0:51:19 GMT -5
we have mustang grapes here growing wild.bitttttttttttttttttttter.........lol
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Post by mythkat on Aug 31, 2011 16:32:51 GMT -5
Hi all,
I found the recipe for crabapple pectin and I'll post it in the recipe folder.
Kathy
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Post by garrett on Aug 31, 2011 19:27:24 GMT -5
awesome kat.................smiles
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Post by nordicnacho on Sept 1, 2011 17:32:08 GMT -5
I've been eating 5-6 pluots a day they are so tasty u must try one. Im planting 4 trees next year at 5 dollar a pop for 10 it adds fast
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Sept 1, 2011 18:04:01 GMT -5
I've tasted one from the store. They're great but I don't think I have enough chilling hours or land. Hmm An apple tree died at Dad's?
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Post by nordicnacho on Sept 1, 2011 19:55:26 GMT -5
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Sept 1, 2011 20:29:22 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that link. It was a Golden Dorset that died. It had been split in half by Katrina. I've never grown the Pink Lady apple but I love to eat them. The real tempters though are the two cherry trees. Our Chilling hours are 250 on a good year. Dang I need more land. I could plant these at Dad's but he's 81 and Mom already said she is moving to a retirement apartment if she is left alone.
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Post by garrett on Sept 2, 2011 9:45:06 GMT -5
not enough cold hours here fer much.........sighs..peaches and pears................
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Post by gulfcoastguy on Sept 2, 2011 12:23:07 GMT -5
But Garret you can have figs, pomegranites, meyer lemons, kumquats, satsumas...
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Post by tastyofhasty on Sept 3, 2011 8:22:11 GMT -5
Down in Louisiana I had both, sweet and sour kumquats. I personally liked the sour ones the best. They would be cool to can, I think. At a wedding they served these spiced kumquats that were absolutely delicious, like nothing I ever tasted before.
Satsumas are another nice citrus you don't find in gro-stores much but are really delicious and grew for me in Louisiana.
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Post by garrett on Sept 5, 2011 18:15:58 GMT -5
gots me thinkin...lol
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Post by nordicnacho on Sept 5, 2011 23:28:08 GMT -5
Citrus is really nice because you can get fruit through the winter & spring
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Post by garrett on Sept 7, 2011 8:46:34 GMT -5
sounding good natch.............smiles
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