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Post by garrett on Feb 28, 2012 10:45:11 GMT -5
several years is my understanding ml.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Feb 28, 2012 11:55:11 GMT -5
if I remember correctly, apples can be as little as three years (dwarfs), stone fruits can be as late producing at 10(standard)? Don't quote me on this though...it's a vague recollection.
And yes, like any hybrid, they will not produce true but revert to one of the parents.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 13:19:43 GMT -5
so does any one know how long it takes from seedling to producing fruit on the different types of fruit. and does the new tree revert to root stock if ya plant a seed from a grafted varity. Marie, the rootstock will forever be out of the genetic loop. If you save seed and grow the issue of that seed out, you will get a standard sized tree. Speaking for apples, a standard sized tree can be fourty foot tall if never pruned short. An apple from seed is about a seven to ten year adventure. Peach- cherry can fruit younger.
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Post by marielouise on Feb 28, 2012 17:40:31 GMT -5
Ok thats what I thought. My youngest son planted some peach pits one year--I had picked and bought 2 bushels from a local grower for the freezer and canning. He came in after I had peeled and pitted and asked what I was gonna do with the seeds. And if he could have them. Ok ... We didn't know until the following spring that he had planted them in the garden--- and Jim plowed and laid up rows which scattered peach seed all over the garden . I swear ever seed came up --- when pulling weeds one day I pulled one with the seed still attached and thats when we knew . and Son insisted on replanting each and every one of the seedlings. He checked every morning --noon and night for HIS peach trees and replanted here and there . some survived --theres still one out by our driveway and 2 or 3 down at Moms house, hes now 40 and this was before he started kindergarten,,,,, but the peaches have never gotten any bigger than a ping pong ball. Even with thinning. Most summers they falll off before ripening. They are pretty when they bloom! I did try a bud graft from a neighbors freestone peach--- it didn't work. I prolly didn't do it correctly!LOL
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Post by garrett on Mar 8, 2012 10:38:51 GMT -5
smiles.its always an adventure......
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Post by marielouise on Mar 8, 2012 17:54:27 GMT -5
Yuppers an adventure!!! Life is an adventure. ;
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Post by garrett on Mar 9, 2012 17:43:59 GMT -5
trayed up some sour sop yesterday.
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Post by garrett on Mar 9, 2012 18:54:51 GMT -5
chinese rose plums trayed up.;lol
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 9, 2012 19:00:50 GMT -5
how long did it take for your tree seeds to germinate? I'm getting mighty impatient waiting for my Nanking Cherries to germinate.
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Post by garrett on Mar 9, 2012 19:30:10 GMT -5
lol just out of fridge and stratifying em now lace. i just potted up some chinese apple seeds thaat aappear to be possibly germinated and sprouting. none have broken soil yet.
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Post by garrett on Mar 9, 2012 19:31:54 GMT -5
will be potting up more tommorow.lol don't tell coppice but i think a pawpaw has made an appearence outside. biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig grins.
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Post by coffeebreak on Mar 9, 2012 20:36:22 GMT -5
Got 1 key lime the broke the ground about 2 week ago, Pickup 3 blood oranges today at the Grocery store after I juice them they only had 1 seed between them and it had already Sprouted in the orange so I planted it
Charles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 21:13:20 GMT -5
Well those were rugged Ohioan yankee pawpaw so they might be persuaded its spring already.
My first successful pawpaw germination was in NH, from MD seeds. They were pretty sure it was too d**med cold where I grew them. Some years they didn't pop till June...
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Post by garrett on Mar 10, 2012 9:35:45 GMT -5
them ohioans iz tough.smiles
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Post by garrett on Mar 10, 2012 14:59:56 GMT -5
been tearing around outside. prepping my tree arks. pulling weeds ect.will add secret sauces herbs and spices tommorow and turn it all over and mix it. the juggernaut is awake.the planter iz moving. now allz i needz iz some tree sprouts. lol looks like its all going sort of according to plans i made last year. rotfl sorta kinda like.smiles
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Post by marielouise on Mar 10, 2012 16:43:53 GMT -5
ahhh good for you!!! Its a mud hole out in our garden spot --- and more rain headed this way. not complaining tho--- we need the rain!! Got different stuff coming up out there--hopefully it won't drown..
I was trying to remove the dead tree and replant the one we bought when that storm hit the other day and run me back to da house... gotta get that baby out.
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Post by garrett on Mar 11, 2012 0:24:55 GMT -5
get that thing planted ml.smiles
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Post by garrett on Mar 13, 2012 1:14:52 GMT -5
apple seeds might be popping.lol
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 13, 2012 8:27:16 GMT -5
I can smell the apple jelly already
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 8:51:12 GMT -5
I pressed my nose to the 36 count trays and asorted pots I have slumbering tree seed in. I'm not sure that any have woken up yet in our early spring.
Other than last fall planted rhubarb babies out in their new forever-beds.
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Post by garrett on Mar 14, 2012 10:41:51 GMT -5
copp how small is too small to upsize a seedling in a small pot to a larger?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 11:03:23 GMT -5
copp how small is too small to upsize a seedling in a small pot to a larger? Like a tomato baby, it aught'a have at least one set of true leaves. Cotyledons(sp?) don't count. Pawpaw is going to stay in its seedling pot till fall. I won't transplant mine till they are dormant. And I get mine from pot to field when they are dormant too. *grumble* Rassenfrassen pawpaw.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 11:07:26 GMT -5
Quince has definately germinated. Now some was real real (for tree seed) old. My faint hope is a few of these quince babies, are from them old seed. I dunno where I'll ever get those contorted cultivars again, Brent isn't offering them any more
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Post by garrett on Mar 14, 2012 11:09:44 GMT -5
copp how small is too small to upsize a seedling in a small pot to a larger? Like a tomato baby, it aught'a have at least one set of true leaves. Cotyledons(sp?) don't count. Pawpaw is going to stay in its seedling pot till fall. I won't transplant mine till they are dormant. And I get mine from pot to field when they are dormant too. *grumble* Rassenfrassen pawpaw. lol get er done copp.
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Post by garrett on Mar 14, 2012 11:10:40 GMT -5
ok tell me bout quince copp? smiles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 18:08:20 GMT -5
Quince' glory is its ability to make spring flowers. It is kin to pear and is occasionally used as rootstock for pear.
Most quince fruit never quite mellows like persimmon does. Frost does not sweeten it any. Expect a bite of quince fruit to make your ears flutter enough to touch over the space that used to be the back of your head.
Is does however make a fine jam called membrillo. and is a Spanish Tappas favorite.
Quince started somewhere in China and went where ever a Chinaman did, often in a shallow pot. It often sets a wicked set of thorns.
Quince was a popular plant in Omya (that Japanese bonsai town) to make "octopus" style trees.
Long ago Brent Walston (Evergreengardenworks.com) had all three bloom-colors of a contorted cultivar. Which made the squirmy shape of 'octopus' styled trees uber good. Them shrubs were so-o twisty, even they're thorns were bent into fish-hook shapes.
If a quince will live in Japan, I'd expect it to do well in the south. *if* it gets regular water.
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Post by bluelacedredhead on Mar 15, 2012 21:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 5:35:37 GMT -5
The first listed recipe for marmalada is vitrualy identical to membrillo. I like it, I've made it. I concur its good stuff with cracker or toast. Cut off a slice. A sliver of cheese or ham and you'll do a happy-dance after.
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Post by garrett on Mar 17, 2012 1:22:05 GMT -5
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Post by garrett on Mar 17, 2012 1:23:11 GMT -5
pawpaw?
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